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is cd unrealistic for long term weight loss?

#1
Hi everyone, i have lost 3 stone with lighterlife, put it back on and did the same last year with cd.

Now I didn't binge like mad but obviously did eat three meals a day (chicken, veg, potatoes, or salmon, veg and potatoes) but not loads of takeaways etc.

Reading a lot of posts on here, it seems a lot of people put back all their weight and some more, so is it unrealistic to expect when we come off this diet even when doing maintenance, we will regain some of our weight?

:wave_cry:
 
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#2
Hi - did you mean to post this in the CD forum - or are you now on WW?

I think with any diet you need to be careful when you have lost your weight and approach increasing your calories gradually until your weight stabilises - then you know how many you can eat without gaining weight.

I am sure they do this on LL and CD? never done either so don't know.
 
#3
Personnaly I think it depends on how realistic our goals are and how much we want to keep it off, i mean I could use cd to get down to 7 and a half stone if I wanted but for me that would be unrealistic as I know I wouldnt be able to stay there, so I feel we need to set realistic goals in the 1st lace to ever stand a chance of keeping it off.xx
 

Dieting Rambler

Size 14 Here I Come!
#6
When you did LL and CD and came off them, did you do the maintenance programs or did you just stop doing them? The reason I ask is from my research (reading most of the threads;)) I have found that those that maintain their weightloss are those that worked themselves up the levels within the diets.

I do believe that I can maintain my weight when I get there as I have chosen a weight that is still classed as over my BMI but is the lightest I will have been for 20+ years, I know that the hardest part is to maintain, and I am sure lots of people on here that are maintaining will give you lots of advice on how best to do that.
 
#7
I agree with DR. Weight loss is the easy step. You may have been eating healthy but what were your portion sizes like? I have always eaten healthily with the odd take away but my portion sizes have been big. CD or LL are not quick fix diets, just because you've lost the weight doesn't mean it won't get back on. You just need to make sure you go through maintenance and stick with it. Exercise is also very important. I believe losing the weight is a tiny battle in comparison to keeping it off. All the best x
 
#8
Yes you are right. I didnt do exercise when on ll and cd so didnt do any when i stopped but my portion sizes weren't huge but i did try to keep my calories under 1500. Maybe sw would be better for me to try once i've achieved the weight loss from cd. Then some type of exercise routine to tone up.

Thank you all for your help and advice. :)
 
#9
Carolyn, I feel like you do.
I did LL 4 years ago ish and lost 3 stone but couldn't afford to the maintenance. Kept the weight off for a bit then started CD last week (I'm on Day 11) at exactly the same weight as when I started LL.
I'm more determined this time I think, but I know I will always struggle with my weight loving food (and booze) unfortunately the way I do.
I guess I'll just have to try harder this time.
However much I try to deny it I suppose I will always be that person who has to be careful and can't eat what she wants when she wants.
:sigh:
 

KD

Gone fishing
#10
Reading a lot of posts on here, it seems a lot of people put back all their weight and some more, so is it unrealistic to expect when we come off this diet even when doing maintenance, we will regain some of our weight?

:wave_cry:
Ummm. Difficult one. I think 'unrealistic' might be the wrong word in this case....possibly.

It's a bit like saying is it 'unrealistic' to expect someone to stay on a VLCD. It really depends on the person.

The going rate for maintenance is about 5% manage to do it. And that 5% is taken from all sort of weight losses. I read last night that only 1% of people keep off a large weight loss and that wasn't even in a non-dieting book :(

So, yeah...it's normal for people to put the weight back on regardless of what diet they've done.

But, not from a psychological viewpoint, just that most people don't change their way of life and adapt to their new bodies.

Regain some of the weight? Again, it's up to the person. Some will, a small percentage wont.

General opinion is that a maintainer keeps within 3-5lbs either way, to allow for days when their is a little water retention, so yes, even maintainers can put on a little weight...not likely to be fat though.
 

Lostris

Serena's title didn't fit
#11
I will be one of the 5% ^_^. Would that make it 6% ???

Serious now; this subject does worry me a lot. :) I'm determined I will do my best but I think it'll take a while for me to adjust hehehe. Will start maintenance diary when I reach the kcal steps so you can all kick me up the bum when I do something bad ;-)

xx
 

poohbearmufc

Longing 2 b a yummy mummy
#13
I was told to think ahead to when you have worked up the maintenance steps what you are going to do, whether that be healthy eating, low GI etc. I put my weight back on cos I didn't eat healthily and didn't go up the maintenance steps, I am kicking myself now!!

I will do it this time as I want to banish this excess weight!

Love
 
#14
Hi everyone, i have lost 3 stone with lighterlife, put it back on and did the same last year with cd.

Now I didn't binge like mad but obviously did eat three meals a day (chicken, veg, potatoes, or salmon, veg and potatoes) but not loads of takeaways etc.

Reading a lot of posts on here, it seems a lot of people put back all their weight and some more, so is it unrealistic to expect when we come off this diet even when doing maintenance, we will regain some of our weight?

:wave_cry:
Just to add to this, show me another diet where people haven't put on weight after they've stopped following it. The thing is, you can lose your weight quickly, using a VLCD like Cambridge, or choose to lose it more slowly, say on WW or SW. But it seems to me, no matter how you lose it, your chances of putting it back on (or putting it back plus some) are exactly the same if you don't change your eating habits.

I will echo that I think it's very important to actually stick to a diet - any diet - until you reach goal, and then work your way through the maintenance steps.

Losing weight is actually the easy bit :sigh:
 

KD

Gone fishing
#15
I will be one of the 5% ^_^. Would that make it 6% ???
LOL. When I was doing the diet, I remember reading about the 5% and sighing.:sigh:, but then I realised it was in my power to be that 1 in 20. It's not like winning the lottery, where luck plays the biggest part (assuming you buy the ticket that is :D)

There was no reason for me to not be part of the 5%. It was up to me.

Anyway, I've just been reading something else of interest. Just some notes I had written down from some research. (I have millions of notes...very anal like that :D

It talks about how most people do low calorie diet and this is good blah blah, but then a little on VLCDs

It says that VLCDs were discouraged in the states as a 1998 government report said people don't maintain their weight after a VLCD.

Now...to me that made sense. Yeah, I know...weird. But only because I believe that the majority of people who chose VLCDs have often failed with all other diets....and usually have a greater amount to lose because of eating disorders etc.

Anyway...it then goes on to say that more recent research has shown differently. I quote:

"Yet one recent review of 29 studies involving thousands of people compared results from studies involving people on VLCDs, with results from studies of people on low calorie diets and concluded that 5 years after being on the diets, those who had lost weight on the VLCDs tended to have better maintenance of weight loss.

James Anderson MD a renowned weight and diabetes expert at the University of Kentucky said "There just isn't evidence that slow weight loss results in better maintenance of weight loss"


Thought that was interesting, especially since it came from a book about maintenance in general...rather than an proVLCD book
 
#16
I am currently working up the steps, as I have done this diet several times, came off the plan withouut working up the steps, and consequently never got to goal or kept the weight off. I've finally realised that working up the plans is an ESSENTIAL part of the diet, not just an optional extra. That last few weeks of working up to increased calories is vital for maintenance, and in some ways are more important than the SS stage!!

xxx
 

KD

Gone fishing
#17
Just to add to this, show me another diet where people haven't put on weight after they've stopped following it. The thing is, you can lose your weight quickly, using a VLCD like Cambridge, or choose to lose it more slowly, say on WW or SW. But it seems to me, no matter how you lose it, your chances of putting it back on (or putting it back plus some) are exactly the same if you don't change your eating habits.
Yes, exactly (see my message above). It seems that it's little to do with how you lost it (assuming a decent plan that is protein sparing) and more to do with how much you've lost.

there is also research to say that your body does change when you've lost a lot.

Will have to dig out what I have on that theory. Can remember it exactly, but sure I've written about it here. Will see what I can find in my notes :D
 

KD

Gone fishing
#18
I am currently working up the steps, as I have done this diet several times, came off the plan withouut working up the steps, and consequently never got to goal or kept the weight off. I've finally realised that working up the plans is an ESSENTIAL part of the diet, not just an optional extra. That last few weeks of working up to increased calories is vital for maintenance, and in some ways are more important than the SS stage!!

xxx
Yes, I agree, though even going the steps is easier in many ways than maintenance when you are on your own and really maintaining, rather than yoyo dieting.

I totally agree with you about it being ESSENTIAL. It goes with the teritory.

When I talk to clients about the diet....I talk about the steps.

People say that you don't learn good eating habits on Cambridge....absolute rubbish. You do that going up the steps.

Of course, we all know about healthy eating...but here we get to practice it before you are let lose. Absolutely vital IMO
 

KD

Gone fishing
#20
there is also research to say that your body does change when you've lost a lot.

Will have to dig out what I have on that theory. Can remember it exactly, but sure I've written about it here. Will see what I can find in my notes :D
Ah yes, found it, but haven't got much written down.

A doctor can find out whether you've lost a lot of weight without even seeing you....just by a simple blood test. Amazing.
 


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