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No, just pointing out that my information doesn't come from internet debate and misquoted studies that you find all over diet forums online. I chose that username because it reflects something about me... same reason most people choose specific usernames. I've actually seen many many things...

I feel like that every day! lol

I'd hazard a guess that I'm a little more familiar with the research and biochemistry in general than you (the clue is in my username). Thermodynamic Laws are the only laws relating to energy. In the post above yours I discussed briefly TEF and why this is insignificant when it comes to...

This is called the thermic effect of food (TEF). Protein does indeed have a higher TEF than fat or carbs. Very simply, up to 30% of protein calories ingested are used to process the protein whereas up to 10% of fat and carb calories are used for processing. However the effects of this on...

Scientific research says otherwise. Biochemistry is an immensely complicated science, but the Laws of Thermodynamics still apply. You cannot create energy so if you're only consuming 600kcal per day and your maintenance is 2000kcal per day the defect has to be made up by your body's energy...

Yes. Some foods (most notably carbs and salty foods) will cause you to retain water and mask true fat loss but fat loss will still occur.

I'm doing a PSMF. It's just adequate protein, vitamins, minerals, EFAs, electrolytes and water. No carbs or fats (except for the EFAs). Very low calorie (I'm consuming about 500kcal/day). It's what the Dukan Diet is based on, and the book I mentioned above (the Rapid Fat Loss Handbook). The...

So do I to be honest lol I hear 'vitamin C' and I 'see' an orange in my head!

OP if you're determined to do this your own way I would highly suggest getting a copy of Lyle McDonald's 'Rapid Fat Loss Handbook'. At least then you'll know how to supplement and in what quantities. He's a legit guy who knows his stuff. You can get the book from his website (hardcopy and/or...

I see your point but even when eating unhealthily your electrolytes are likely to be in balance. Your vitamins and minerals may be a bit off, and your EFA (essential fatty acid) balance will be messed up, but your electrolytes won't be. Messed up electrolytes levels (whether they've been...

It does, but vitamin C is abundant in both fruit and vegetables. :)

You really don't want to be messing around with potassium if you don't know what you're doing. I'm not even sure it's available as a solo supplement. I would even argue that some marketed VLCDs don't provide enough protein. I've only looked at Cambridge and Exante, but they were working at the...

Any diet with less than ~100g carbs per day will induce ketosis to some extent, although a lot of ketogenic diets set the upper limit to 30g to ensure that ketosis is achieved.

OP I can see where you're coming from - in fact I'm doing a PSMF which is a VLCD based around just protein (zero carbs or fats except for EFAs), vitamins, minerals, extra calcium and electrolytes. However, I wouldn't recommend anyone just go ahead and start doing what I'm doing. If you don't...

Oh I hope it's nothing serious you need done! Eventually your fat loss will exceed any water you may be retaining and the weight will continue to drop - or the water will drop off on it's own anyway.

Some people are always a couple of pounds heavier while training due to the water retention (I'm one of them!). For others it drops off in a few days or after a week or two. But it's definitely not fat! :)

It's exactly the same thing as I said before: water retention caused by muscle inflammation due to your increased workout schedule. Nothing to worry about.

It'll just be your muscles retaining some water due to your increased workout schedule. Every time you workout your muscle fibres are broken down a little (sometimes a bit more than a little - hence your DOMS!) and then between sessions they repair and rebuild so they are stronger. This happens...

You can have so much more on Atkins (even induction) than just meat/fish/eggs! For motivation and ideas: Sugar Free Sheila.com: The ULTIMATE Resource For Atkins Information That said, my experience doing VLCD has been that, yes, I sometimes feel physical hunger, but the results are worth it...

It's good to be thinking about maintenance now! That's probably where many people go wrong - they get really into the weight loss portion but don't give enough thought to maintaining their results and so just find themselves slipping into old habits.

I'm the same - I've become positively obsessed with food porn!

Thanks! I was (and am) gobsmacked by the loss. I'm 24% of the way to my goal.

I'm on day 11 and in the first 10 days I lost 17cm from my bust/waist/hips combined - 8 of those were from my hips alone!

I know what you mean. I just had a sudden craving for Wotsits - and I don't even eat Wotsits! Just remember, each time you don't give in to a craving, the behaviour gets reinforced so it gets a little bit easier each subsequent time you say no to a craving. :D

Your stomach was churning due to having to digest such a large volume of food (all of it, not just the pizza) for the first time in a while. Your temperature increased and you started perspiring because your metabolism increased due to the huge influx of calories after living on so few calories...

It stands for protein-sparing modified fast. You eat a specific amount of protein, arrange your vitamins, minerals and electrolytes, and make sure you get enough essential fatty acids and water. I wouldn't recommend it to most people but I'm very familiar with the research (you might guess why...

So it turns out I'm having a bad reaction to ALL of the Exante products I have. Rather than just try some different flavours I've decided I'd be better off switching to a PSMF. Much cheaper too! On the plus side I'm still on plan and will be making the switch tomorrow. Thanks for the support...

Essentially weight maintenance comes down to energy in equaling energy out (in this case the energy is in the form of calories). No getting around thermodynamics unfortunately. Whichever way makes it easiest for you to stay in energy balance (low carb, low fat, etc) is the best way to go.

Welcome! I'm on day 5 and haven't really experienced much hunger. You can always split your shakes into two for the first week or so until you get used to the lower calories - that's what I did, and I definitely think it helped. I'm still splitting one of my shakes into two. You'll be...

Day 5. This first week seems to be flying by. I'm really looking forward to dropping my first size. I'm hoping it won't be too long. There's definitely a change in how my tops are fitting. I put on a freshly washed t-shirt today which usually is fairly fitted, but today it is noticeably...

You can get loose skin regardless of rate of weight loss. This is a pretty good article: Loose Skin and weight loss - how to lose loose skin after losing weight It basically comes down to genetics though.

Day 5 - nearly a full week!! I woke up this morning feeling not too great to be honest. I'm starting to perk up a bit now though. I'm not weighing (for a number of reasons) but will be measuring. Probably Monday morning - although you can see from my signature I've already had a bit of a...

Ooh I'm going to be following this diary - I'm off to Florida myself in two months (I'm also tying the knot out there). I'm sure at worst there'll be some water retention from the extra carbs in that chicken kiev, but it'll probably be gone again in time for your weigh-in. :)

Well done! And especially for maintaining while on holiday!

OK, no more bars! Bad tummy. Working from shakes only from now on. Might be better from a results standpoint anyway.

Day 4 :D Was a bit hungry last night before realising I had another shake to have! Just had my first shake of the day. Also, took a look at my measurements this morning: Bust same :eek: (shocked because I tend to lose weight up top first - but not complaining because I'm small up there...

I agree - in fact I'm only using the tape measure! No scales for me. I don't care what I weigh, only how I look. Haha I'm so vain! But that's part of the reason most of us are here I guess. Anyway, I'm on my fourth day and couldn't resist a peak at the tape measure this morning - I'm already...

Jools I agree with doublehappy - a toothache or some blood tests can come in quite handy while doing this kind of thing! ;) So we've made it to day four! I'm really surprised at myself and proud of us all. I definitely think that once the first weekly weigh in (or measure for me because I'm...

Day THREE already! :eek: I think I can feel the slightest loosening in my t-shirt and the thighs of my jeans, but it's most likely my imagination! Lots to do today though, and while it would be nice to have a day just lounging in front of a DVD box set, being busy is a good distraction...

Woo! Day 3! I can't believe it. I'm still doing good. I'm stunned at how easy these first couple of days have been. I'm not letting my guard down though - induction flu could be lurking around the corner! I don't think I'm in ketosis yet - either that or I'm one of those people who doesn't...

I'm so sorry to hear about your cat. :( But definitely well done on not giving in to emotional eating! Sounds like you've discovered some extra strength within you during this hard time.

Scary! OP I hope you're feeling better now. It's generally not a good idea to combine very low energy intakes with a lot of activity. It can actually slow down fat loss: Why Big Caloric Deficits and Lots of Activity Can Hurt Fat Loss | BodyRecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald You're...

Thank god for the bars!! lol I had the tape measure out yesterday and have noted some measurements (sticking to the usual bust/waist/hips) so I'll have something to keep me going, motivation wise. :) I think after I've lost some inches I'll add the stats to my signature... :eek: Based on what...

Second day going well so far (too well... I'm waiting for carbohydrate withdrawal to kick in and no sign yet). Just had my first bar. Planning to have half a shake at around 2pm, the remaining half at 4pm and then another bar at about 6pm. How's everyone else doing?

Hopefully we'll be down to a size 10 before we know it! The boyfriend did offer to get the scales out once per week to weigh, but I decided against it. The main reason is because I'm often so much heavier than everyone else who's the same height and size as me (I'm currently 5'3, wearing a...

Definitely - the accountability will do me good! I've had my last 'meal' for the day - went with a bar because I wanted something to chew. This first day has been surprisingly easy (although no doubt I've jinxed myself now!). I can't wait to start seeing some changes in how my clothes fit!

I'm on day 1 too! :D Looking forward to completing today to meet my first mini goal.

That's great - there's no better feeling than your clothes getting looser!

Hair loss can happen on any kind of diet, nutritionally balanced or not. It's the energy deficit that causes it - because it's a stressor to the body. Your hair should return to its usual thickness once you switch to maintenance.

precious, looking at your ticker you've had some amazing weight loss! Here's hoping I can replicate some of that!

I'm getting married not too long after you AmZies! Looks like you're doing well. :)

So my first day has begun! I am splitting my 'meals' up into 6 portions. Had my first at 10am so will have one every two hours - my last will be at 8pm. The steady supply of nutrition should help - I hope! (15 minutes until my next half shake!) I'm looking forward to tonight when I can...

So I spoke to my boyfriend about my plan tonight. He was very supportive (but then he always is - I'm a very lucky girl!), although a bit concerned that I may get really miserable and go on some crazy binge. I reassured him that if I was having an exceptionally tough time on TS I would switch to...

I'm so sorry to hear about how and when (could he have chosen a worse time?!) your dad left. I'm astounded your MIL said that to you! Some people... It's always good to talk these things out. :hug99:

I'm not starting until Monday but I thought I'd start a journal now. I have no idea if I can do this. I'm useless at dieting - probably because I haven't needed to until now! My weight gain only happened over the past couple of years. I seem to be better at doing stuff (exercising more) than...

Ah yes, the Last Chance Diet. The source of protein was collagen! Thankfully they revised that, and you can even do whole food PSMFs now. I had to address this. I think you must be referring to your body fat percentage. If you had 20-25% lean body mass (LBM) you'd have a body fat (BF) level...