Atkins '72 is soooo different!

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  1. Fuffs

    Fuffs This is really the time!

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    Found this in an old thread in another low carb forum: http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=105855

    The original Atkins is very different to the 'user friendly' 2003 edition. I now really want a copy of the original book!

    I am sure Jim knows more about it than me!:)
    Original Atkins... 1972 Bantam Version

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    *NOTE* This is from the book, Bantam edition / September 1972 paperback...

    Not sixty grams of carbohydrate on this diet but zero grams
    Here’s how this diet is significantly different. During the first week on this diet, you cut your intake of carbohydrates down to what is biologically zero.
    This creates a unique chemical situation in the body, the one favorable to the fastest possible burning of your body’s stored fat. Ketones are excreted, and hunger disappears.
    You see, the first fuel your body burns for energy comes from the carbohydrates you eat and drink. If any carbohydrate is available, your body burns this rather than stored fat-and maintains its old metabolic pathways. But carbohydrates, as such, are not stored in the body beyond forty-eight hours.
    So when no carbohydrate is taken in, your body must draw upon the major reserve source of fuel-the stored fat.
    It is forced to take a different metabolic pathway. In this process your body converts from being a carbohydrate-burning engine.
    This is The Diet Revolution: the new chemical situation in which ketones are being thrown off-and so are those unwanted pounds, all without hunger.
    A gradual addition of carbohydrate to keep your body burning it’s fat as fuel. We must maintain this chemical situation if you’re to continue to lose without hunger. And if we add carbohydrate very gradually in tiny amounts-we can do just this… keep your body converted into a fat-burning engine.
    So that is just what we do. The second week you might add a few grams of carbohydrate to your diet. Every week thereafter a little more carbohydrate (around five grams) may be returned to the diet.

    The Rules of Original Atkins

    The Diet Revolution Rules (Level One)
    1. Don’t count calories
    2. Eat as much of the allowed foods as you need to avoid hunger.
    3. Don’t eat when you are not hungry.
    4. Don’t feel you must finish everything on your plate just because it is there.
    5. Drink as much water or calorie free beverages as thirst requires. Don’t restrict fluids… but it is not necessary to force them either.
    6. Frequent small meals are preferable.
    7. If weakness results from rapid weight loss, you may need salt.
    8. Everyday take a high-strength multivitamin pill.
    9. Read the labels on “low-calorie” drinks, syrups, desserts,. Only those with no carbohydrate content are allowed.

    The First Life-Changing Week, eat nothing that is not on the list.
    Meat: Steaks, Corned beef, Lamb chops, tongue, Hamburgers, Bacon, Any kind of meat in any quantity—except meat with fillers such as sausage, hot dogs, meatballs, most packaged “cold cuts”
    Fowl: Duckling, Turkey, Chicken, Anything with wings, No stuffing
    Desserts: Gelatin with artificial sweeteners (e.g., D-Zerta [is that still around?])
    Condiments: Salt, pepper, mustard, horseradish, vinegar, vanilla, and other extracts; artificial sweeteners; any dry powdered spice that contains no sugar
    Drinks: Water, Mineral water, Vichy, Club soda; Beef or Chicken broth, bouillon; Sugar free diet soda; coffee*, tea, decaffeinated coffee
    ---------*Special note on caffeine and Diet Cola. Because most heavy people have some hypoglycemia, coffee, which contains caffeine, should be limited to six servings a day (cups). If you know you have low blood sugar, better limit it to three.
    Fish: All fish, including canned salmon, tuna; any kind of seafood, including oil-packed and smoked, except oysters, clams, muscles, scallops, and pickled fish
    Eggs: Boiled, fried, scrambled, poached, omelet – any style and without limitations
    Salads: Two small green salads a day (each less than one cupful, loosely packed) made only of leafy greens, celery, or cucumbers and radishes. Dressings with vinegar, oil, salt, dry spices, herbs, grated cheese, or anchovies. Or else a sour pickle in place of a salad. Plus… green olives.
    Butter & Mayonnaise Fats: Butter, margarine (head New Diet Revolution & eat no margarine with trans fatty acids), oils, shortening (not such a great idea), lard & mayonnaise (fats have no carbohydrates).
    Juice: Juice of one lemon or lime
    Cheese: Four ounces a day of any hard aged cheese. No cream cheese or cheese spreads.
    Heavy Cream: Four teaspoons a day. (Cream has less carbohydrate than milk – so don’t use milk)
    Diet Revolution Salad Material: Celery, Chicory, Chinese Cabbage, Chives, Cucumber, Endive, Escarole, Fennel, lettuce, Olives (Green or Black), Onions, Pickles (Sour or Dill), Parsley, Peppers, Radishes, Scallions, watercress.
    What Happens After The First Week’s Diet. Most diets are fixed formulas and are therefore short-termed and self-limiting. This diet is fixed only for a week. After that – because it must be a lifetime diet, it is, as variable as are individual tastes.
    I’ve labeled the additions of carbohydrate that follow’ second level’, ‘third level’, ‘fourth level’, ‘fifth level’, but in fact the additions are interchangeable and flexible. You can make any of these additions any week that you choose. I am so committed to making this a livable lifetime diet that I am letting you select your own variations, within the rules set up by your biological rulebook.
    Put back what you’ve missed the most: The idea is simply to gradually return to your diet first what you missed most. Custom-tailor the diet to suit your carbohydrate additions to suit your lifestyle. All that matters is that you add back to your diet a little carbohydrate at a time, and that you stop adding carbohydrate when you reach your CCL.
    How to know when to put back a little carbohydrate: Ask yourself: Are the keto-stix still turning purple? Am I still un-hungry? Have I stopped eating at night? Do I have more energy? Am I still losing weight or inches nicely? Remember, your tape measure is a lot better friend than your scale, not only more accurate, but better able to report on the actual fat (not just temporary water) losses this diet achieves.
    The Second Level: Cheesecake for dessert? At each level, remember you add approximately five to eight grams of carbohydrate daily for a week and analyze the results. Most people agree the best way to handle the second level is to add cottage cheese…
    The Diet Revolution Vegetables (not for level one): All of the above plus; Asparagus, Avocado, Bamboo Shoots, Bean Sprouts, Beet Greens, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Chard, Chinese Cabbage, eggplant, Kale, Kohlrabi, Mushrooms, Okra, Onions, Peppers, Pumpkins, Rhubarb, Sauerkraut, Snow Pea Pods, Spinach, String Beans, Summer Squash, Tomatoes, Turnips, Water Chestnuts, Wax Beans, Zucchini Squash

    Sample menu, level one:
    Breakfast: Scrambled eggs with spicy ham, Diet revolution roll and butter, Bouillon, coffee, or tea
    Lunch: Cold cuts sandwich on Diet revolution Roll w/ mayo or mustard, 1 cup of salad (loosely packed), oil & vinegar, or a dressing from the recipe list, Raspberry gelatin, Diet soda, coffee, or tea
    Dinner: Chicken soup with Matzoh Balls, Your favorite cut of steak, Caesar salad with Caesar Salad dressing, Gelatin, diet soda, coffee or tea
    Snack: baken-ets, stuffed celery, diet soda.

    Sample menu, level two:
    Breakfast: Lox and stuffed onion omelet, caraway Diet revolution Roll with cream cheese, Bouillon, coffee, or tea
    Lunch: Avocado stuffed with crabmeat, Tossed green salad with dressing from recipe list, diet soda, coffee, or tea
    Dinner: Mixed grill with garlic Butter Sauce or Béarnaise Sauce, Tossed salad with French Dressing, Gelatin Parfait with whipped cream, diet soda, coffee, or tea
    Snack: Assorted smoked fish, Hard cheese, Diet soda
     
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    I know a lot of people consider the original book to be better, I honestly think that they are just different. For me personally I think that people should read both and choose the one they think works for them best or do like me and read none of them cover to cover hehe :D
     
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    Fuffs This is really the time!

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    LOL!!Well it certainly hasn't done you any harm lol
     
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    '72 worked for me, it nwas much stricter but easier to follow in my eyes.
     
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    anything that works ion my opinion!
     
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    I tried the original version a few years ago.
    For me it was a little inpractical as it had a very worrying effect on events that take place in the bathroom. A little bit like the effects that are supposed to be caused by xenical and alli if you eat too many fats. lol!

    So for me the increased in carb intake on todays version would probably work better. :)

    I hope that makes sense without being tmi.

    X
     
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    Hmm,

    that's interesting, most people in their first weeks on induction have the other problem AG.
     
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    I do like to be different. lol!
     
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    LOL, LMAO, well there you go then :)
     
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    My 90s version of the book sounds like the best of both worlds, then - a larger & more varied veg allowance in Induction, but none of the hard sell on the Atkins products (which in my experience also cause the side effects AG alludes to...). But like Jim says, it's whatever works for you...

    Incidentally, I've never liked Atkins' writing style. Some bits of the book really make me cringe. But I can't argue with the science, or with the results!

    N&I's IPD seems like Atkins science rewritten in a much more accessible/enjoyable style.
     
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    I think the differences are due to thr Atkins company trying to make a less contreversial plan, based on the science of Dr Atkins original plan. By 2003, it is just like an Atkins product catalogue....That makes me cringe!!lol
     
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    Is that right Sophs? I haven't seen any Atkins book except the '72 version.
     
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    Yeah Jim. Every book they have put out since Dr Atkins death pushes their products. Firstly, I think eating bars made by anyone during induction (unless there is nothing else to eat) is not helpful. Withdrawing off carbbs is not helped by eating anything that mimics carb(ier) items. I think natural, fresh food should form the basis. They have tried to make the plan less frowned on by laying off on pushing the fat factor as much. I would love to read the '72 book now.
     
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    I lent mine to someone years ago and never had it back Sophs, but by then I was in pre maint so I didn't really miss it.
     
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    I'm curious now, might nose at a newer version in the shops at lunchtime.

    Older (pre-death, if that's not too ghoulish) versions are often available in your local library and I'm always seeing them in charity shops as well.
     
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    I totally agree with this btw. Whenever I occasionally treat myself to an Atkins bar I often crave carbs for a couple of days afterwards, whereas if I keep the diet 'pure' I almost never get bad cravings. And I feel healthier, because more of my carb allowance is going on veg.

    I guess I've never had much of a sweet tooth though so I can imagine other people find it a lot harder without the products.
     
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    I had a disgusting sweet tough. Choc digestives, cake and choc peanuts. All my faves. Since low carb, I have had none of them and feel fine. Kind of naturally don't want them. Got to say though, when it is TOM, I have a little reminisce to the days when I could indulge. I think it's a hormonal thing!
     
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    Sophs definitely hormonal when TOM is around.. I do agree with the atkins bars comment. Ive had one only once and they are ok but I'm like LM I dont have a sweet tooth. when I crave I'll crave weird things like cereal..
     
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    They make me crave too, and knock me out of K :-( I'm never eating one ever again!
     
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    I have the '72 Bantam book & on page153 he says, "The second week's diet as described contains approximately 10 grams carbohydrate." So I can only think the first week should contain less!! Blimey, I have just reread that bit!!
     
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