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I have only watched half of it so far; pretty sad, humiliating (for him) watching, but I quite like watching those kind of things as it makes me feel less fat :D
 
Just read a bit about it, how he had carers to wash him (ugh what a job - never moaning about mine again) and cook for him! If I had someone to cook for me I'd be so thin, especially if they did the shopping too (i looked into those meals in the post diet companies, but when a weeks supply is more than I spend on a month of groceries it seemed obscene).
 
One thing I have noticed over Xmas - we had lots of deserts around - the Baileys cheesecake, a chocolate cake - but I didn't touch them. It just seemed natural not to serve myself up any, so I didn't and it felt ok. - I suppose it is going back to that thing we have all talked about before of being able to resist, but once you start finding it difficult to stop. Hopefully I have curbed my sweet tooth!
 
jaqys said:
Just read a bit about it, how he had carers to wash him (ugh what a job - never moaning about mine again) and cook for him! If I had someone to cook for me I'd be so thin, especially if they did the shopping too (i looked into those meals in the post diet companies, but when a weeks supply is more than I spend on a month of groceries it seemed obscene).
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All a bit gross, yes - and to be filmed for TV!!!! Enough to make anyone think about their weight!! The poor guy, they had to get engineers in to the hospital to work out whether the floor would be able to take him, the bed and the surgical team!!
 
morning all hope everyone is dukanwell
 
Hi everyone,

I'm wet wet wet... There are drawbacks to walking (and not cycling) to work - it takes longer so you get even wetter....

Anyway, hope you're all having a good morning despite this gloomy weather (hopefully not gloomy where you are anyway!)
 
Walking in this weather? pffft! Makes my hair go fluffy... Metro + 15 mins is all I'll do...

I hate this weather. Bring back the snow (did I say that aloud?!)

4.5 hours until the weekend, and looking forward to my first one in ketosis in months! busy at work though but should be ok over lunch hour here!
 
A bit quiet on here???

Just having a little think about what i can change to help me loose weight and 2 things popped into my head.
1 - Try not to eat after 7.30pm
2 - Aim for 7 or more hours sleep each night

I am definitely going to give these a go. The body needs time to repair and recover from the day to be ready for the next. Also having food in your body too late in the evening when you are slowing down (metabolically too) is not good, as the body then is busy processing that before it can start repairing.

Just food for thought really!!

x
 
I'm trying to sleep more in the week too.
I cant do the not eating in the late evening thing though, although I dont snack after dinner now - other than maybe leaving 30mins before 'dessert'.

Whats everyone else trying?
 
I eat dinner off a teaplate... (but started that before my Return!). It's not easy not eating after 7.30pm because I'm only home 1/2 hour before that so I can't do that.

As for sleeping 7 hours. I'd love to. Am in bed in plenty of time to. Even fall asleep in oodles of time to. But wake up! I was ketopsychotic at 3am this morning! Wide awake! Totally alert! And worried to bits about work DOH!

In the morning, I wasn't worried at all!
 
Busy busy busy (I'm just having lunch now) and wet wet wet here too!
 
Not wet here, it's also warm. The washing is on the line outside and I've let the fire go out (on purpose).

It is January, right?

Hope everyone's OK!
 
Wet, damp, fluffy hair weather here too... horrid! Thankfully now that my hair is longer, I can simply put it in a ponytail and forget about it!

So mild too. Am in short sleeves and am HOT! (My always cold officemate keeps putting the heating on, I'm sure!)
 
Lynn_ said:
BBC - BBC One Programmes - 10 Things You Need to Know About Losing Weight

If you didnt see this program last week, I really urge you to watch it now. There are just 5 days as of today (Sat 8th Jan) to watch this before it expires on iplayer.

The program is 1 hour long and will probably be the most important hour of your dieting life.

There were some really big surprises in it, but the 3 biggest things we as dieters have to understand is how protein, calcium and soup (yep, soup) can really make a huge difference to succesfully losing weight.

SammyE originally posted this link on another thread, so thanks to her for it. Its a program I really wanted to watch.
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Lynn_ said:
These are the 10 points discussed in the program. The presenter was a doctor and only wanted to cover things that can be scientifially proved, so there is sound scientific basis for all the points noted.

1. Dont skip meals
This I think is crucial to succesfully losing weight, particularly when it comes to breakfast. Ive held the belief over the past 6 months that a protein rich breakfast is key to dealing with cravings during the day, and this was proved by point 5.
In this experiment the presenter had a brain scan on 2 days, the first day he had eaten breakfast, the second day he hadnt. The results from the brain scan were quite remarkeable and showed how our unconcious responses to food work when we dont eat regularly.
2. Use smaller plates
Yep, this is a good tip and has stood me in good stead.
3. Count calories
I discovered early on that carbs where the downfall, but not to the extent of ignoring calories consumed (as in Atkins for instance). This is why i have a distrust of the WW diet. I just dont believe that fruit and veg, while it is undoubtably good for you, should not be counted in your days food totals. The class leader encouraged us all to keep a bowl of fruit in the kitchen or on your desk at work to pick at during the day. I just dont buy into this train of thought, and I have to believe in something to give it my all.
4. Dont blame your metabolism.
The real message in this was that we eat more than we think we do, even if you record everything you eat. The lady who took part in this part of the program believed she was eating less than 1500 cals a day but was in fact eating 3000 cals a day.
5. Protein staves off hunger
Absolutely and without doubt this and point 8 for calcium were best parts of the program, (apart from the excercise bit which my brain is busily trying to forget). The trick they missed with this part is showing how carbs have the opposite effect and actually set up cravings. From what ive learned over the past year is that a breakfast of refined sweetened cereal and white bread toast is possibly the worst thing you could start your day with, especially if you also have juice with it, or jam on your toast, or both. If anything is going to get the hunger pangs and cravings going before lunch this will.
6. Soup keeps you fuller for longer
Ive heard this before, and I am a fan of soup anyway, and come to that Exante, which is a kind of soup mix. But this was still really surprising. A group of soldiers are given exactly the same food, one part of the group has the food as a cooked meal (chicken breast veg and rice) and a glass of water. The other part of the group have exactly the same, but this time the food is blended with the glass of water to make a thick soup. Over the next 4 hours, their stomachs are analysed with ultrasound and the ones that had soup, had much fuller stomachs for much longer. Amazing.
7. The wider the choice the more you eat.
This actually made me feel quite happy as I have a great tendency to eat the same things day in day out, which goes against belief that variety is key. Ive always been happy whilst losing weight to eat the same things. I do eventually get sick of things, so i just move onto something else that I eat over and over. At the moment my favourite thing is Jamie Olivers Chorizo and chickpea soup ( scores well for this program as its high in protein, soup, and I know the calories for it).
8. Low fat dairy helps you lose more fat
Actually this was the biggest surprise for me, although I do take issue with 'low fat dairy' The program did not actually specify low fat dairy in the experiment itself. The point they are making though is that calcium from dairy combines with fat which makes a soapy substance that passes through the gut and does not get absorbed. A kind of 'do it yourself' Xenical. Which I guess is why Atkins dieters can stuff themselves with cheese and lose weight. I think what the program was saying is that if you include a low fat calcium rich dairy food with your food, the fat in the rest of the food combines with the calcium from teh dairy food. But I still take issue with the fact that the actual experiment did not specify low fat dairy, and the guy seemed to be eating full fat dairy from his own farm. Maybe i need to watch this section again.
I am however going to start incorporating low fat dairy into my food now though, ill add low fat yoghurt, skimmed milk or low fat cheese to the food I cook. The extra calcium and protein will be good for me too.
9. Excercise goes on burning fat for 22 hours.
In this experiment, the presenter did 90 minutes on a treadmill at 4mph on an incline of 5%. During that 90 minutes he burned 19g of fat, and he wasnt too impressed. But the surprise was the next day when he laid on a bed doing nothing for 90 minutes and burned 49g fat. This is because the 90 minutes of walking used up his carbohydrate store, the afterburn effect of the excercise carries on for another 20 odd hours and the body then starts to burn fat as the carb store has gone. Interesting, and its enough to make me really consider taking up regular excercise.
10 Keep moving and lose more weight
In this part a DJ was monitored for a day, she was pretty much sedentary with a lot of sitting down (sounds a lot like me). Then the next day she was to do the same routine but this time move herself more, and she burned over 200 extra calories doing it.

I would really be interested in anyone elses take on this program. I found it very thought provoking and will definately make some changes to my diet and lifestyle after watching it.
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Great dukan relevant post from another board x
 
Obviously not from the Atkins board ;)

Lajlaj mentioned this programme too.

I'm always interested in seeing people's menus on our board but few post quantities so I don't bother any more... at one point, on a French board I frequented, someone was very keen on seeing us not dip into VLCD calorie levels so we posted quantities of everything and we were all surprising low caloried. Barely 800 most days.
 
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