Hating refeed

[nictastic]

I know i only did three weeks of tfr but i found refeed great. Everything tasted really good and had no upset tummy.

I have been on it for a fair few months and monsoon for longer! I suppose your stomach just inst used to it anymore!

 

[nictastic]

If it helps I would be happy to post the details of what we are allowed to eat when we get to maintenance - just to give some ideas. The VLCD bit of LT, LL, CD and W8 effectively work in the same way so a gradual reintroduction should work for all diets - I just can't imagine just eating an 8 oz Jacket potato ever again let alone 4 days after finishing my diet!!!! I am v. carb sensitive too. The LT refeed doesn't seem to take this into account - it concentrates on low-fat.

Let me know

Carol x

That would be fab! I don't want to introduce the amount of carbs LT recommends sooo soon... I have bad tummy ache and would rather have just switched to atkins style tbh
Thanks hun!!!
Yeah, low fat isnt good for me either, as low fat normally means high sugar=carbs!! Low carb is definately the way to go!
You are a star!

 

[Monsoon]

I am so sorry, i didn't mean to freak any one out or scare them, I had a lot of weight to lose so was on LT for 6 whole months, I did not eat even a crumb so the thought of eating was really daunting, I had 2 shakes and an evening meal (veg & chicken or fish) then suddenly I could eat almost anything, I found that really hard, like being in shopping mall with 10k!!! So i ate and ate, mainly salad and chicken, then a bite of a s/w then a bit of cake, then thought enough is enough, I'm going too far and have now gone back to 2 shakes and a meal for a while longer now. I totally agree, i think the re introduction is too fast and maybe should be adapted to the amount of time one has been on the diet? I will now in my own way and will certainly look out for hints from Carolanski - good to read yr tips! Also, one other thing, I never read the leaflet or guidelines on re feed until the morning before weigh in...that didn't help as i was not prepared, thats worth reading and maybe meal planning before refeed? Take care.
T x
Hope yr feeling better nic, I am now i have devised an action plan!!!

 

[Carolanski]

Hi Guys

Here goes: bit of an essay

Phase 1 - 3 weeks

3 packs (we normally eat 4 a day - so you might need to go down to 2) and 1 meal, up to 1/2 pint skimmed milk everyday:

5oz protein - any of the following
Chicken breast - no skin, Turkey, Ham, Fish - fresh, tinned (in brine/water) or frozen, Shellfish, Eggs, Back bacon, Quorn, Tofu, Plain Cottage cheese, Lean Mince, Lean Pork, Lamb,

Steamed veg/ salad - max. 2 handfuls

Broccoli, Alfalfa, Peppers, Chicory, Radishes,Cucumber, Bamboo Shoots, Cauli, Leeks, Lettuce, Watercress, Spinach, Celery, Cabbage, Asparagus, Fennel, Pak Choi, Courgetts, Marrow, Garlic, Mushrooms, Tomatoes, Green Beans, Mangetout, Beetroot, Sweet potato, Carrots

1 piece/ small handful fruit:
Apple, Blackberries, Cherries, grapefruit, grapes, Kiwi, Lemon (!), Lychee, Peach, Pear, Plums, Raspberries, Blueberries, Satsuma, strawberries, Tangerine

Unlimited herbs and spices

Alcohol - one small measure twice a week only
Dry champagne, Dry sherry, red wine, dry white wine

PHASE 2 - 3 weeks

2 packs a day and 2 meals

Everything on Phase 1 plus:

Protein:
Lean Beef, Game, Gammon, Liver, Veal (boo hoo!), Venison

Spreads/Oils
Low fat spread, peanut butter, drizzle olive oil, marmite, chili oil

Additional fruit (still only allowed 1 piece per day)
Apricot, banana, currants, prunes, mango, melon, pineapple

Nuts: small handful
Pine nuts, pumpkin seeds, almonds, brazil, cashew, hazelnut, hemp, linseeds, macadamia, sunflower seeds, walnuts

Carbs - "Trigger Foods" - only small handful in size
1 bread roll, jacket potato, 3-4 boiled potatoes, wholegrain rice, wild rice, noodles, pasta, basmati rice, black rice, 1 x bagel, 1 slice wholemeal bread

Cereals: - 30g per day
Bran flakes, rice crispies, shreddies, special K, cornflakes, ready brek, porridge, shredded wheat (1), weetabix (1)

Beans/Pulses - small handful
Beans, broad beans, butter beans, peas, mangetout, soybeans, lentils, chickpeas, black eye beans, pinto beans, lima beans

Dairy - low fat
Fromage frais, low fat yog

Low cal drinks- 1 per day
Low-cal sugar free

Alcohol - 2 units a weeks (if you must.....)
Lager - 1 pint, beer - 1 pt, dry cider - 1 pt, spirits - 1 measure with low cal mixer

Treats - up to 2 per week
choc - 1 small bar/3 individ chocs, low fat crisps, small handful popcorn, small handful sweets (less than 1% fat)

PHASE 3: 3 weeks

1 pack plus balanced meals - try to have 2 Carb-free days per week

5% fast releasing carbs - pots/pasta etc, Try to keep high carb veg to a minimum (potatoes, carrots, sweetcorn, parsnip, squashes)
25% slow releasing carbs - cereals/grains, brown rice, wholemeal bread, beans/pulses etc
40% low carb veg - everything off previous list plus seaweed (!), jicama (?), spring onions, aubergine, avocado, artichoke, okra, celeriac, turnip. water chesnuts, pumpkin
30% Protein

plus 2-3 portions low carb low sugar fruit per day -
try to keep high sugar fruits to minimum, banana, dried fruit, mango, pineapple, kiwi, grapes, oranges

plus small amounts of veg oil - flaxseed, rapeseed, olive oil, marg

Then just balanced Low GI FOREVER!!!!

Hope that makes sense

Carol x

 

[nicki26]

i am doing refeed week as normal-advised by lipotrim, i think it is better to have a small amount of carbs on day 3 'i will only have half the amount advised' so that my body gets used to it,rather than eating food and avoiding carbs as i think that will have a worse affect than eating them straight away, your body will go nuts if u avoid them when it does actually come to eating them lol so i am going to have literally three or four plain new potatoes,small ones on day three as advised and one wholemeal cob on day 4 and just take it from there

 

[msblonde]

very useful

Hi Guys

Here goes: bit of an essay

Phase 1 - 3 weeks

3 packs (we normally eat 4 a day - so you might need to go down to 2) and 1 meal, up to 1/2 pint skimmed milk everyday:

5oz protein - any of the following
Chicken breast - no skin, Turkey, Ham, Fish - fresh, tinned (in brine/water) or frozen, Shellfish, Eggs, Back bacon, Quorn, Tofu, Plain Cottage cheese, Lean Mince, Lean Pork, Lamb,

Steamed veg/ salad - max. 2 handfuls

Broccoli, Alfalfa, Peppers, Chicory, Radishes,Cucumber, Bamboo Shoots, Cauli, Leeks, Lettuce, Watercress, Spinach, Celery, Cabbage, Asparagus, Fennel, Pak Choi, Courgetts, Marrow, Garlic, Mushrooms, Tomatoes, Green Beans, Mangetout, Beetroot, Sweet potato, Carrots

1 piece/ small handful fruit:
Apple, Blackberries, Cherries, grapefruit, grapes, Kiwi, Lemon (!), Lychee, Peach, Pear, Plums, Raspberries, Blueberries, Satsuma, strawberries, Tangerine

Unlimited herbs and spices

Alcohol - one small measure twice a week only
Dry champagne, Dry sherry, red wine, dry white wine

PHASE 2 - 3 weeks

2 packs a day and 2 meals

Everything on Phase 1 plus:

Protein:
Lean Beef, Game, Gammon, Liver, Veal (boo hoo!), Venison

Spreads/Oils
Low fat spread, peanut butter, drizzle olive oil, marmite, chili oil

Additional fruit (still only allowed 1 piece per day)
Apricot, banana, currants, prunes, mango, melon, pineapple

Nuts: small handful
Pine nuts, pumpkin seeds, almonds, brazil, cashew, hazelnut, hemp, linseeds, macadamia, sunflower seeds, walnuts

Carbs - "Trigger Foods" - only small handful in size
1 bread roll, jacket potato, 3-4 boiled potatoes, wholegrain rice, wild rice, noodles, pasta, basmati rice, black rice, 1 x bagel, 1 slice wholemeal bread

Cereals: - 30g per day
Bran flakes, rice crispies, shreddies, special K, cornflakes, ready brek, porridge, shredded wheat (1), weetabix (1)

Beans/Pulses - small handful
Beans, broad beans, butter beans, peas, mangetout, soybeans, lentils, chickpeas, black eye beans, pinto beans, lima beans

Dairy - low fat
Fromage frais, low fat yog

Low cal drinks- 1 per day
Low-cal sugar free

Alcohol - 2 units a weeks (if you must.....)
Lager - 1 pint, beer - 1 pt, dry cider - 1 pt, spirits - 1 measure with low cal mixer

Treats - up to 2 per week
choc - 1 small bar/3 individ chocs, low fat crisps, small handful popcorn, small handful sweets (less than 1% fat)

PHASE 3: 3 weeks

1 pack plus balanced meals - try to have 2 Carb-free days per week

5% fast releasing carbs - pots/pasta etc, Try to keep high carb veg to a minimum (potatoes, carrots, sweetcorn, parsnip, squashes)
25% slow releasing carbs - cereals/grains, brown rice, wholemeal bread, beans/pulses etc
40% low carb veg - everything off previous list plus seaweed (!), jicama (?), spring onions, aubergine, avocado, artichoke, okra, celeriac, turnip. water chesnuts, pumpkin
30% Protein

plus 2-3 portions low carb low sugar fruit per day -
try to keep high sugar fruits to minimum, banana, dried fruit, mango, pineapple, kiwi, grapes, oranges

plus small amounts of veg oil - flaxseed, rapeseed, olive oil, marg

Then just balanced Low GI FOREVER!!!!

Hope that makes sense

Carol x

very comprehensive! thanks for posting, as i'm also carb sensitive i may try this when i refeed if i have trouble with LT refeed. i think its worth trying if our normal way doesn't suit for one reason or another.

well done btw carol, inspiring losses there.

H xx

 

[trimlee]

Hi guys, just started refeed today. A bit scary but exciting too. Guess we've all gotta adjust gradually when it comes to refeeding. On a positive note, our stomachs have shrunk by now and our taste buds are more refined.....

 

[Carolanski]

very comprehensive! thanks for posting, as i'm also carb sensitive i may try this when i refeed if i have trouble with LT refeed. i think its worth trying if our normal way doesn't suit for one reason or another.

well done btw carol, inspiring losses there.

H xx

My pleasure, happy to help!!! And many thanks for your kind comments... nearly there now and will be starting maintenance soon myself so feeling for you all!!

Good luck all

Carol x

 

[cuddlyfairy]

Thanks Carol. I've saved your post for when I finally refeed. It was great advice and made me feel I can do it when the time comes.

x