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Oh you poor thing, I can't imagine what having a miscarriage would be like!
I have PCOS too, and the reason I'm doing this is to have a baby in a few years. I got 5 periods when I was 16, and at my slimmest, and then nothing, for nearly 6 years. I came of Cilest 5 months ago, and a week into LT, I got a period, and last week I got another one. I cried with joy. Getting a period makes me feel female, I always felt unsexy and unfemine and basically a waste of space because I didn't.

You should try Low GI/GL. You sound
really insulin intolerant, and low GL is reccommended for PCOS. There is a thread in refeed
ttp://www.minimins.com/lipotrim-refeeding/47095-low-carb-low-fat-gi-please-help.html

and I talked about the test for insulin resistance yesterday. Nic has loads of info posted about low GI/GL. She's a guru!!

I feel so so sorry for you!!

Guen
 
Hi Guen,

My story with PCOS is pretty similar, to make a long story short I had to lose 5 stone in order to fall pregnant with my first after 4 years of trying for her. However pregnancy and birth seem to have sorted my fertility side of PCOS as periods became very regular. Second only took a year & half and I was 2 stone heavier, and my third which I miscarried only took me a record of 3 months to conceive and I was at my heaviest ever.

As far as insulin problems, can I just ask what are the tests for this. I have had the glucose test done at hospital and all was fine, so does this rule it out. I know my craving for sugar is not all in my head and also if I dont eat every 2 hours I get the shakes etc. I was convinced I had diabeties hence the glucose test but all was clear. Thats why lipo worked for me as staying away from all foods seems to keep the symptoms of PCOS at bay as far as the sugar side of it.

I have known I had PCOS for 18 years now and not one doctor seems bothered about it. I have also had many doctors over this time and they all say the same thing "there is no cure". I understand this but nothing has ever been done to help me. I have joined a PCOS site and I just cant believe how many medications are out there to help ease the problems of PCOS metiforim being the main one. I had never heard of this from any doctor. Its disgusting.

So are there any other tests you know off for the insulin problem.

Sorry guys to wonder of the subject of lipo.
 
pink380 said:
Hi girls,

Well I am afraid to say I have given up :cry:

I just cant make head nor tale of this diet ever since I lost the 3 stone 2 year ago. At that time I flew it without a bother no symptoms nothing for the 8 weeks I was on it.

For the last 2 years each time I try to go on it my body just really shuts down and no matter what willpower I seem to have the symtoms take over in the end. I just dont think its possible to do this diet second time around. Has anyone managed to???? would love to hear. I can manage 2 to 3 weeks at the most before I start to feel really bad and that seems to be it.

Yesterday I was feeling a bit depressed on and off during the day. I knew it was going to get the better of me cause when I opened my eyes yesterday morning the first thing I thought was "I would love some breakfast" and nearly cried, but it passed. This kept happening on and off throughout the day. It really upset me cause after 6 days surely you should be thinking less of food not all of a sudden wanting it after 6 days!!!! Anyway I kept up my strenght thinking all this would pass.

From about 4 yesterday evening I started to feel really unwell, very tired, pains in my eyes and every muscle totally ached in my body. All this after feeling fantastic for nearly 6 full days. It made me stop and think "is this diet really safe".

Anyway I lasted up until 7pm snapping at the kids and hubby etc and daughter told me how awful I looked all of a sudden, very dark under my eyes etc. So as much as it killed me I said "enough is enough". I have tried so many times now since my 3 stone loss 2 year ago and its just not working. The sad thing is, its not the lack of willpower, its the way my body is feeling, it just does not feel healthy. As you seen from my other posts I was feeling on top of the world, felt totally fantastic and then to go totally downhill all of a shot does not sound right to me and its actually scaring me a bit to tell you the truth.

I am going to try and stick to healthy diet and if I struggle then my next step is to cut my portions. I do think the secret to good weight loss is WATER so now that I have been drinking gallons of it for 6 days solid I am in the routine of it and will keep it up.

I am so gutted folks but I think health has to come first. I may be overweight but I dont feel sick with it compared to when I try to do this diet.

This diet works guys and if its your first time on it stick with it and then when its time to finish it try everything in your power to maintain it cause I cant be the only person on this planet who's body is just rejecting lipotrim time and time again.

Take care all, I will keep checking on your progress and if you have any questions feel free to ask.

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Pink i'm so sorry you've given up, you'd sounded so miserable yesterday and i'm glad you've def chosen health very strange how your body seems to be rejecting it. Wish you all the best and hope you find another way to lose weight the way your happier with. Good luck girl xxxx
 
I had the 'gold standard' test done when I was about 16-17! Mum brought me to a very expensive doctor, and I was admitted to hospital for this test. Mum would pay any amount for me to be healthy.They did it on me because my doc was CONVINCED I was a diabetic, but all the tests were negative. I was tested 6 times in 3 years.

"Measuring Insulin Resistance

Hyperinsulinemic euglycemic clamp
The gold standard for investigating and quantifying insulin resistance is the "hyperinsulinemic euglycemic clamp," so-called because it measures the amount of glucose necessary to compensate for an increased insulin level without causing hypoglycemia.[2] The test is rarely performed in clinical care, but is used in medical research, for example, to assess the effects of different medications. The rate of glucose infusion is commonly referred to in diabetes literature as the GINF value.
The procedure takes about 2 hours. Through a peripheral vein, insulin is infused at 10-120 mU per m2 per minute. In order to compensate for the insulin infusion, glucose 20% is infused to maintain blood sugar levels between 5 and 5.5 mmol/l. The rate of glucose infusion is determined by checking the blood sugar levels every 5 to 10 minutes. Low-dose insulin infusions are more useful for assessing the response of the liver, whereas high-dose insulin infusions are useful for assessing peripheral (i.e., muscle and fat) insulin action.
The rate of glucose infusion during the last 30 minutes of the test determines insulin sensitivity. If high levels (7.5 mg/min or higher) are required, the patient is insulin-sensitive. Very low levels (4.0 mg/min or lower) indicate that the body is resistant to insulin action. Levels between 4.0 and 7.5 mg/min are not definitive and suggest "impaired glucose tolerance," an early sign of insulin resistance.
This basic technique can be significantly enhanced by the use of glucose tracers. Glucose can be labeled with either stable or radioactive atoms. Commonly-used tracers are 3-3H glucose (radioactive), 6,6 2H-glucose (stable) and 1-13C Glucose (stable). Prior to beginning the hyperinsulinemic period, a 3h tracer infusion enables one to determine the basal rate of glucose production. During the clamp, the plasma tracer concentrations enable the calculation of whole-body insulin-stimulated glucose metabolism, as well as the production of glucose by the body (i.e., endogenous glucose production)."


The nurses told me I would feel sick, sleepy, sweaty and exhausted. They gave me an injection of insulin, and it had NO effect! They gave me a second double dose. That hit me though. Twas horrible! Like being a hypoglycaemic diabetic apparently.
I had loads of med students around me, taking history, and my consultant himself was even there.

Just an aside, I just found out my younger cousin, 21, is expecting a baby with my consultants daughter. I'm so jealous, the girl'll have to take a year off college tho.

Guen
 
Thank you so much. I will look into this but dont hold out much hope as I live in Ireland and they are so behind with the times here :D

Thanks for the GI info, I do know all about this etc but just never put my mind to it but I think its time I did. Its so hard when you have a family to look after etc as when I do my low fat etc it seems that I need 2 shopping trolleys one for me and one for them and that dont come cheap and to get kids to eat salads, veg etc is not easy :sigh:

Thanks again.
 
I'm from Dublin. I saw a doctor in Blackrock Clinic.

I know, I just have a bf to contend with, and the silent protest I get if I dare to serve him something awful, like brocoli is unreal! I can't imagine having to deal with kids too!
 
Well I never "Dublin hey" Im actually in Galway but I really thought Ireland would not be up to scratch with all this stuff. I will definately inquire into it. Thank you very much.

I know when I asked about the metiforim I was informed from my doctor that it was not licenced here????? Yet when I went to the hospital for glucose test they first wanted to send me to a counselling clinic as they thought it was all in my head and then they would talk about the metiforim. Needless to say I never went back for my follow up appointments. I dont need counselling I felt so insulted.

By the way I moved from London 6 year ago so that is why I made the comment about Ireland being behind the times cause trust me with a lot of things they really are :eek:
 
Hi Pink,

I am so sorry about this whole diet thing. I think it is so hard returning to it. I am re-starting as you know and just like you did 7 great days and then binged on Sunday. However jumped back on yesterday and have found today hard but its now over so I'm still hoping. What is hardest I think about this whole process is it makes it so hard to go on any other just plain calorie counting diet. The TFR just takes so much of the pain away from all the counting and the results are so fast and furious it is hard to opt for something slower and steadier and probably more sustainable and healthy. The diet I found really helpful was Southbeach. It is american but I am sure you can get the books in Eire and it is based on ketosis too - a little like atkins but low fat and very managable. I did this diet when I was in the states before starting lipotrim (which I first bought on ebay in UK) and shipped to USA. How desperate am I?? Anyway, when I finish this tfr with lipotrim I am going to try and get on southbeach again after refeeding. I am taking it a day at a time and hopefully, I'll be your success story for a restarter. There is a site in Eire on vhi.ie under diet and nutrition and there are many women there who have restarted and been very successful - who have refed and then restarted and managed it. It is so hard but I think it is all down to mindset. I was so so so sorry I didn't get to target first time round and this time, I will. Pink, I wish you well with something different. I have been so gouchy with my kids and hubby and do wonder if it is all worth it but....... I am also a pain in the a.s all the time feeling crap about how I look and feeling inadequate. I know I feel good being in control so it is all a balance. Good luck with it all

Colly
 
hi pink
sorry to see you've given up. but maybe you'll find a better diet that suit you its all about finding whats right for you so that you can stick to it. i too have pcos and if you do, you do have insulin resistance they go hand in hand and the better you control your insulin level as in sticking to low gi the better control you'll have over all your pco symptoms. I live in dublin and attend margaret griffin in charlemont clinic she specialises in pcos and is excellent and very approachable. she put me on metaformin for pcos and it curbs your appetite for sure as well as regulating cycles etc. whatever dr told you metaformin isn't licienced must never have treated any non-insulin dependent diabetics as that is one of the most common drugs used to control that. sometimes drs who aren't specialists are reluctant to prescribe it for pcos cos its only recently being prescribed for that and i think some drs are nervous to use it. you should see if your gp will refer you to a good endocrinologist as pcos is an endocrine disorder with gynae symptoms and not the other way round. anyway good luck with finding your new path to weight loss and let us know what you decide to do and how you get on xxx
 
Honeybelle,

how u doing? Sticking with it?? I'm just glad another start and day 2 over . Did well today, really tired, tom and worked really hard last week. Anyway, another day down and a good one!

Colly
 
hi colly
i'll be 2 weeks on it tomorrow. i'm not telling anyone in work i'm on it. I'm becoming a great liar!! i bring in my own soup cos "i'm so busy i have to take a quick lunch" and the stuff i make is nicer than the canteen soup (definate lies). i was on a boat the other day i couldn't eat then "in case of sea sickness" oh i think i can come up with excuses for everything. can't drink cos i'm driving. i'm "too busy" to go for lunch. sometimes i say i've "an upset stomach" he he but anyway another day over. great to see you stuck with it after the other day ....knew ye could do it :D hurray
 
Ah don't be so hard on Ireland. Smaller populations work differently! There just isn't the demand to have more services available. Don't get me started on doctors tho, I have had GPs refer patients to me, and I take one look at them and I know they have HIV or something worse, and then I have to refer them back and 'suggest' certain tests be done!
 
Honeybelle,

I have been secretive bout it all too - only family and one friend knows cos its damn 'private'. I just make the excuses, had a really heavy late b/fast or been feeling nauseous or on a detox for a day or two. I just do not want the comments and everyone likes to add their tuppence worth. Its my stuff. Day 3 again and doin fineish!! I did a 4 mile walk this am with the dog and it felt okay but I am hungry. I know it only gets better so for today, I'm damn well going to make it. 2 weeks is wonderful. how much do u want to lose?? I want to lose 3 stone really but 2 will get me looking good - anything under 11 stone I can carry but under 10 and I'm a 'yummy mummy'. I'm 5'5 and now weight just 12.7 after a week and a cheat on the diet. I'd say another 4 weeks for me to get me to goal if I am good good good. I have a 13 mile walk for charity on Saturday and a BBQ the following week so I am hoping I'll get there somehow. I may make 2 weeks the target and then start refeed in an effort to maintain some kind of social life!!

Colly
 
Hi everyone. I just joined this forum as I'll be starting LT tomorrow and I just know I'm going to be needing as much support as possible!

My name is Gemma and I'm 23 years old. When I was a child I was so skinny that my mother didn't allow me to wear skirts, declaring that my legs looked ridiculous like matchsticks! This didn't last long though - I went to live with my grandparents and I have one of those grandmothers who has to feed you as much as possible. Long story short I put on a shed-load of weight. I lost some when I was 17 after undergoing cosmetic surgery - I couldn't eat properly after the anaesthetic - and I lost about 2st almost three years ago by pure hard work, but for some reason over the past year I've gained a LOT of weight back.

I'm now at the heaviest I've ever been, last weighing in at about 13.5st which at 5'4" gives me a BMI of around 32 :eek::(:mad:

Carrying all of this weight on a small frame obviously has unpleasant side effects, the least of which are shoulder and back problems and worsened asthma.

I heard of LT after a lot of people at my place of work started to use it but I've finally had enough of being this size and have decided to bite the bullet and give it a go.

I can guarantee I'll be haunting this forum regularly, especially over the next few days as I'm not working so if anyone feels like getting in touch, feel free - I'm not scary really :D

~Gem
 
Gem

Good luck with it all. This is such a rewarding diet, hard .... but rewarding. You will see the results so quickly. Get thru' week one and you'll be flying.

Drink water ,water water and follow the instructiions to a 't' and you will see the weight drop off you.

Good luck

Colly
 
Started yesterday

Hi Everyone,

I started lipotrim yesterday and am finding day 2 hard because I am so hungry.

I am 32 and have a 7 year old daugher. I am 5' 6" and my start weight was 15stone 9lbs.

Thanks
Chills
 
Chills said:
Hi Everyone,

I started lipotrim yesterday and am finding day 2 hard because I am so hungry.

I am 32 and have a 7 year old daugher. I am 5' 6" and my start weight was 15stone 9lbs.

Thanks
Chills
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Hey Chills welcome to the forum. I'm on day 7 now and i've found it fairly easy, to stop hungar though i've found drinking water has stop the hungar pains. Stick at it girl you'll soon feel better and the weight will drop off, just tell yourself why your doing this. Great set of people on here. I wish you the best of luck xxxx
 
Starting ASAP

Hello all

Just wanted to introduce myself to you, I have been reading bits of the forum over the last couple of days and am raring to go but I have to wait for my friend to get back off her hols (this Friday) before we can go and get started!!

My name is Samantha, I am 32, have 2 children - Harley 6 and Willow 4, I have my own business and work from home so hopefully this will fit in nicely with my lifestyle, hubby has agreed to take over all food duties for the first couple of weeks until I get more comfortable and hit my stride.

I have only ever done ww or sw before so this will be a first for me but your successes have really inspired me and I can't wait to add my own successes too.

Hope to get to know you all over the next few months and help out whenever I can.

Sammylou
 
Colly and Guen, thanks for the welcome! I have to say this has got to be one of the friendliest forums I've ever joined.

Got back from the pharmacy earlier (after going to the wrong one lol) loaded up with a weeks supply of shakes and soup. Was supposed to start today but had breakfast this morning so I figured I should jump right into it from tomorrow morning.

Ugh, my first weight check was ghastly, I came in at a fair few lbs higher than I was expecting but what can you do other than suck it up and throw yourself into LT? *shrug*

Anyway, thanks again for the welcome and I'm sure I'll bump into more of you guys around the board :D

~Gem xx
 
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