Men eh!!! and why are we such idiots?

Read your posts hun, and really feel for you. I too have been in bad relationships where there has been no trust - it can do awful things to you and make you behave in ways you would never imagine.

I think the only thing you can do is sit on this one and and bide your time. Hopefully the outcome of your email will be a positive one for you. Then have a talk about how you both view your relationship.

Sending you :hug99: Stay strong xx
 
Latest update.

He has read the email, and has not responded (yet). But still leaves me feeling exactly the same. Does he just log on when he has an email saying he has a message? Does he log on every day?
Only by asking will I find this one out. I dont wanna waste my time on someone who is just playing around. Too old for any crap.

Will let you know when I've had the talk. xx
 
Good luck with the chat Cicerone - I feel for you, it's not nice to have any level of mistrust in a relationship but at least you are tackling this early on in the relationship and will find out if it's worth salvaging. I hope it works out for you hun.
 
Latest update.

He has read the email, and has not responded (yet). But still leaves me feeling exactly the same. Does he just log on when he has an email saying he has a message? Does he log on every day?
Only by asking will I find this one out. I dont wanna waste my time on someone who is just playing around. Too old for any crap.

Will let you know when I've had the talk. xx
Hi babe, sit it out - no choice now really - sorry to say.

I've found that if you do a search without logging in and then enter all details like, age, birthsign etc. a list comes up of when they were last logged in..... it says either... online now, online today or online this week. (If you can be bothered with it, that is)!

That's how come I found out HE'D gone on there every day.

Good Luck xx:hug99:
 
I feel for you C, but TBH I don't really understand; if there is no trust, mistrust, spying, and making excuses/lies as you don't want to see him, then why not just end it? Why play such a game? If you find out he is a player, that's going to hard for you; at the same time, if he is genuine, he's not likely to hang around as he'll think you are the player :confused:


I have to say, I'm slightly shocked to hear that some of you check your OH's emails etc. secretly.

From my POV, if I found out my OH had been checking/trying to check my emails, texts, chat logs etc. I'd be shopping her out the door along with all her stuff, that is a gross invasion of privacy, and trying to get into someone's email account/hack a password is not only morally wrong, invasive, and extremely mistrusting, but is in violation of the Data Protection Act & Computer Misuse act and against British Law; you can get fined/sued thousands of pounds and be given prison time for doing it in extreme cases.

Just trying to let you know the facts guys, enforcing the DPA&CMA is part of my job so I couldn't read and not tell you.
 
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Well I got a response..............

"Hiya and thanks for the message,as for what i am looking for well i guess we are all looking for our soulmates but i am not so sure this is the right place haha,you sound a nice woman and would be a pleasure to talk to you"

Doesnt make me feel any better or worse, so I am off the site and will be speaking to him tomorrow.

What is wrong is that he is still looking or chatting. My idea is that you stay off dating sites, whilst you are dating someone., and if your not happy with that person, then move on!, and I will be saying that to him too.

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Awww honey, that has made me feel sick to the pit of my stomach. Guess it's the familiar territory for me.

You need to have the chat sooner rather than later. He should have said he was dating someone but happy to chat as friends and he DIDN'T!!!

We're all here for you and will support you... I couldn't have been anywhere near as strong with my minimins support.

((HUGS)) xx
 
Oh no im sorry that sucks (((((((((HUGE HUGS))))))) I hope you get to the end of this and have an outcome ur happy with xx
 
He would be out the door after the response if he was my bf.

Sumtimes people jst have too kiss a lot of frogs before we find a prince.. jst makes it all the more worth it when we do x

Don't EVER settle for second best x
 
What is wrong is that he is still looking or chatting. My idea is that you stay off dating sites, whilst you are dating someone., and if your not happy with that person, then move on!, and I will be saying that to him too.

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My highlighting. Have you actually said this to him? I know it might seem 'obvious' to you - if you're dating someone then you don't go to dating sites, etc but if you haven't had that "we're exclusive" conversation maybe he personally doesn't see anything wrong in it.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here more than anything. He might have made some nice friends using that site, and be using it for that reason, but you just don't know.

I still think sitting down and having a chat with him is the way to go - and not an 'accusatory' chat either, I mean a "are we exclusive and if so, this is how I view exclusivity" kinda chat.

I am sorry if it turns out that you have a frog instead of a prince, but don't judge him until you know all of it :hug99:
 
Update.
Ok, I did go back on to the site, and chatted some more to him. (yes, that was wrong and bad of me!).
It went along the lines of talking about sites and how some people were very decietful, so I cut to the chase and told him I was looking for dates and didnt want to waste time chatting on line for ages. He said ok, but if you decide you want a friend please feel free.

OK, a good sign, but why the hell did he not say he was already dating someone!!

Then he called me (the real me), and we chatted. I told him I had decided to take my profile off the site we met on, completely. He asked why., and I said I just thought it was wrong as I was seeing him and even though our profiles said friendship, I just thought it was time to stop altogether. He said ok, so I asked him what he thought about it. His reply was "I have never thought about it, but will". He then mentioned that I have friends on the site I chat too, and I said yes, but the friends have my email and can talk to me that way or on msn. I also said he could do the same with the friends he has made. I am fully aware he has some friends he has never met, but chats to and that does not bother me at all.

I asked him was he on other sites, and he said yes, but never went on them (lie one). I asked what ones, he stammered (always a sign), and said he couldnt remember, he would have a look (lie two). I then just restated that I would like him to think about the site and let me know what he thought.

Anyway, later on, (as you can imagine I was not happy), so I had to call him up and let him know I had spotted him on another site stating he was looking for long term, and had new pics up on it, plus he was on it today! As you can imagine the conversation was not a good one. I got accused of spying (to which I admitted). But isnt it funny how the tables get turned when someone knows they are in trouble. It went along the lines of;
I said your on another site stating your looking for long term.
He said, its an old profile.
I said, you have new pictures up.
He said, I updated it recently, but never go on it.
I says, you were on it today.
Then I got accused of spying. haha
I then told him its wrong what he is doing and he should be telling people the truth (I almost admitted to chatting to him as someone else, I was that mad, but held back). I also told him that if he is in a relationship with someone then it should be exclusive, and if he is not happy in our relationship then finish it, and he can chat to whom he likes.
The upshot of it all is he texted me later to tell me "profile amended and up to date pic deleted". It left me feeling a bit cold to be honest. I never replied, but was very tempted to say, what about the other one, but will let his conscience sort that one out.

Now my head tells me this one is clearly over. The trust issue has been broken (by both of us), and I should finish it. But the stupid side of me is saying, give it a chance have the face to face talk and tell him how I feel and ask him how he feels.

I need some outside views on this one please?

Also I did notice while snooping that soooo many men are not just on the one site. How the hell do you weed out the genuines?

Thanks for letting me rant a little too x
 
I really feel for you - I've been through something similar recently and we're trying to work through it. My OH said it's because he just likes chatting to other women but obviously, that's not acceptable to me. He has deleted his profile and said he won't chat to other women as he doesn't want to damage our relationship even more.

I have given him one last chance because I haven't been an angel either - I was still on the dating site and responding to mails but with no intention of meeting anyone else. I guess we were both as bad as each other.

All I can advise is to wipe the slate clean, don't snoop and try and rebuild the trust if he is what you want.

x
 
Wow these dating sites are a minefield aren't they?

I'm sure they're addictive and difficult to give up. Each relationship we have teaches us a little more about what we should/shouldn't do.
I can imagine how mad you were cos I've been there too and you did well NOT to tell him that you'd be chatting to him as someone else.

I can also understand why he said what he did cos he doesn't want to lose you. If you both decide to try again you need to be clear on ground rules regarding dating sites and contact that you have with others.

Each of us have different tolerances and ideas of what betrayal is. Deceit and lies are abominable cos if you find you've been lied to how can you ever trust what they say again? Think about it.

(((HUGS))) xx
 
Hi I hope you get this sorted,internet sites are really dodgy as they are addictive arent they.
I personally dont go into chat rooms etc as although perfectly innocent on my behalf my OH would think I was up to something.You can wreck a perfectly good relationship by reading more into things than is really there...it all comes down to trust.
Having said that I would have reacted in the same way you have,theres no advice I can offer just wanted to send you some(((hugs)))
xx
 
Oh dear, it sounds awfully familiar to me. I met a guy the same way, he told me he was divorced and his ex wife lived in Denmark ( he was Iranian) we met in the October and he went to Denmark to see the kids every other weekend ( he was a Dentist so money was no issue) Christmas came and he went for a fortnight, I had keys to his house and used his computer not intending to spy, but when I logged on MSN started immediately and girls started coming on line sending pornographic pics etc which made me feel sick so i looked a bit deeper and found he was still on loads of sites. I bided my time and the next time he was supposed to be in Denmark I went over to his house ( he lived about 60 miles away) let myself in and caught him in bed with someone else. Needless to say the relationship was over and now I would never touch another dating site. I hope it works out for you though.
 
Incidentally someone told me to 'google' a username and then you can find out every site that they're on. I did it and was shocked some more.

Please be careful doing this, just out of interest I googled Minnie64 and it came up with other peoples profiles!!!! Don't rely on it as proof it is who you think it is!!!!
 
Both of you are lying through your teeth too each other.. :eek:
 
I really feel for you - I've been through something similar recently and we're trying to work through it. My OH said it's because he just likes chatting to other women but obviously, that's not acceptable to me. He has deleted his profile and said he won't chat to other women as he doesn't want to damage our relationship even more.

I have given him one last chance because I haven't been an angel either - I was still on the dating site and responding to mails but with no intention of meeting anyone else. I guess we were both as bad as each other.

All I can advise is to wipe the slate clean, don't snoop and try and rebuild the trust if he is what you want.

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Thanks for your post Karen. I feel exactly the same way., and have acted exactly the same way as you. I guess we can only talk to each other and see if its worth salvaging.
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Thanks for all the hugs guys. I do agree that dating sites are addictive, as I still chat to guys, and I never want to meet them. I'm breaking the habit though and trying to enforce that on someone else too without a proper discussion beforehand. Trust is the big issue, and thats something I have to deal with. If I cant learn to trust someone then I should be on my own.

Incognito, what you say is quite right, and I am very ashamed of myself for pretending to be someone else.
 
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