Update on Liver problems

Thankyou black rose i completely agree!
 
YES SARA4 LMAO -Your painkiller illustration precisely sums up what I was trying to say.

I'm away off this thread now -its doing my head in lol
 
Ok people lets just leave it alone now and wait for what everyone wants....minskys symptoms!!!!!!!!!
 
Actually! I know I am sad but I have enjoyed the debate! Thank you ladies!
 
lol- its the most excited I've been since the last time i broke LT lmao
 
lol- its the most excited I've been since the last time i broke LT lmao


Blackrose - you and I need to get a life REALLY badly!!!!
 
When we're skinny sara you and I will meet on grafton st and drink our way back to the start of LT ;) Life begins where LT ends lol
 
oh no...I'm sucked back into it lol... leave it alone Liberty!! ;) lol
 
Yep and we can blame the LT on the liver damage!!! LOL! Honestly just kidding!
 
LMAO LMAO LMAO
 
We're on to ya Minsky! lol ;) ;)
 
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Very low calorie diets (VLCDs) Very low calorie diets (VLCDs) are designed to completely replace usual food intake. By definition a diet is described as very low calorie if it provides less than 800 kcal per day.33 It is important that VLCDs provide sufficient protein and meet the daily requirements for vitamins, minerals, electrolytes and fatty acids. VLCDs are usually provided in the form of liquid supplements. Small amounts of low calorie foods such as vegetables may be incorporated into a VLCD. Due to the severe calorie restriction and the potential side effects, VLCDs should not be followed for periods greater than 12–16 weeks. Patients could expect to lose 1.0–2.5 kg per week when strictly adhering to a VLCD.


The National Task Force on the Prevention and Treatment of Obesity,34 recommend that VLCDs are restricted to those:
  • With a BMI of >30
  • Who are well motivated
  • Who have failed at more conservative approaches
  • Have a medical condition that would be immediately improved with rapid weight loss e.g. severe obstructive sleep apnoea.
Contraindications to VLCDs include:
  • Unstable cardiac or cerebrovascular disease
  • Acute and chronic renal failure
  • Severe or end stage liver disease
  • Psychiatric disorder that could interfere with compliance
The side effects of VLCDs may include fatigue or weakness, dizziness, constipation, diarrohea, dry skin, hair loss, menstrual changes and cold intolerance. More serious side effects include the development of gout and gallstones, however, it is well recognised that any form of weight loss increases the likelihood of gallstone development..

VLCDs in the past were associated with cardiac disturbances, however, modern VLCDs are now appropriately constituted and there is no evidence that there is an association between their use and cardiac disturbance.
It is important that patients are medically assessed prior to undergoing a VLCD and that they are monitored closely throughout the treatment. Although it has been shown that VLCDs can produce greater initial weight loss, the long-term results achieved do not appear to substantially differ from those achieved using other dietary methods.1 For this reason there should be strong emphasis on weight maintenance strategies following a period of a VLCD.
The National Obesity Forum recommends that VLCDs are used only under close clinical and dietetic supervision.

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Well,here we are Laydeez, I've spent all evening researching this subject.
A comprehensive search of the Literature shows NO correlation between VLCDs (LT LL or CD) and liver disease, except that which is caused by gallstones. If someone was about to HAVE liver disease and coincidentally just started LT, a lot of Doctors would blame the LT in the absence of an obvious cause.

Liver disease can be caused by:-
  • Alcohol
  • A very unhealthy,fatty diet
  • Drugs (prescribed or over the counter)
  • Chinese herbal remedies
  • Viral infections
  • Exposure to chemicals
The evidence speaks for itself.
We're all OK with our Shakes!! Whoo Hoo! xx
 
Please cathy we've all agreed to let it go until minsky comes on and talks about her symptoms.
 
Liver disease can be caused by:-
  • Alcohol
  • A very unhealthy,fatty diet
  • Drugs (prescribed or over the counter)
  • Chinese herbal remedies
  • Viral infections
  • Exposure to chemicals

God how sad am I? I can say yes I have taken excessive amounts of all of the above!!!!!
 
cheers cathy.
 
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