Weightwatchers - Changing ??

I dont understand why ppl are saying pp is like sw, Just because they have made fruit 0pts? Like its been said before, ww have made fruit 0pts because its included in the daily allowance (foods pts going up and no 0.5pts) and with the weekly points its always been like this. Just it was done daily but could be saved for weekly, which alot of ppl done anyway for nights out and takeaways.

OK OK I surrender!! It's nothing like SW....totally different...X
 
Hope you dont feel like my post was aimed at you because it wasn't. Was actually aimed at the posts on other boards.

No don't be daft! Although I do feel I may have caused some offence :sign0007:None intended!! Lets all us WW and SW followers live in peace :bananalove: X
 
Here are the points from the mail

Anchovies, 1 small can, 45g: 2 ProPoints
Apple juice, 1 glass 100ml: 1
Apricots, dried, 50g: 2
Avocado, ½ a medium 78g one: 4
Bacon, 1 lean rasher: 1, 1 rasher, streaky: 2
Bagel, plain 80g: 6
Barbecue sauce, 2tbsp: 1
Beans (butter, black-eyed, borlotti, broad, cannellini, flageolet, haricot, kidney, soya), cooked or canned, 1 heaped tbsp: 1
Beef, braising steak, 100g: 3 burger, 1 standard 56g: 4 mince, 140g: 8 roast, 1 medium slice: 3
Beer: bitter, ½ pint: 3, 1 bottle, 330 ml: 4
Biscuit, 1 chocolate digestive: 2
Bran flakes, 1 medium bowl, 30g: 3
Brazil nuts (two): 1
Bread: 1 slice wholemeal/white, granary: 2, ½ baguette: 10
Butter: 2 tsp: 2 half-fat, 2 tsp: 1
Cheese: Camembert/goats/mozzarella 40g: 3 Cheddar, 40g: 5 Cream, full-fat,/marscapone 40g: 5
Chick peas, 1 heaped tbsp: 1
Chicken: breast, 1 raw skinless, 165g: 4 drumstick, 1 raw skinless, 160: 1 roast, 1 medium slice: 1
Cider, ½ pint, dry or sweet: 4
Cod, 1 raw medium fillet, 90g: 2
Coffee: 0
Cola: regular, 330ml can: 4 diet: 0
Coleslaw: 1 tbsp: 3 reduced-calorie, 1 tbsp: 1
Cooking spray, low-fat four sprays: 1
Cornflakes, 1 medium bowl 30g: 3
Couscous, 1 portion cooked 150g: 4
Cranberry juice, 1 glass 100ml: 2
Cream: double, 1 tbsp: 2 half-fat/single 1 tbsp: 1
Crème fraiche: 1 tbsp: 3 half-fat, 1 tbsp: 1
Custard: 1 small pot 150g: 4 low-fat, 1 small pot, 150g: 3
Doughnut, 1 jam or ring: 6
Dover sole, 250g: 5
Drinking chocolate, 1 tbsp: 2
Eccles cake: 5
Egg: 1 medium: 2
Egg custard tart: 6
Fig, dried, 22g: 1
Fish finger, grilled: 2
Flour, wheat (any type), 1 level tbsp: 2
Fromage frais: low fat fruit 125g: 3
Fruit cake, 1 slice 60g: 6
Fruit squash, sugar-free: 0
Gammon steak, 170g: 6
Grapefruit juice, 100ml glass: 1
Guinness, ½ pint: 3
Haddock fillet, 120g: 2
Halibut fillet, 120g: 3
Ham, Parma, 2 thin slices: 2
Hazelnuts, 10: 2
Ice cream, low-fat,1 scoop: 2
Jaffa cake: 1
Jam: 1 heaped tsp: 1
Jelly, ready-to-eat 125g pot: 3
Kipper, 150g: 9
Lager: 1 bottle 330ml or ½ pint: 3
Lamb: lean leg steak, 100g: 5 chump chop, 130g: 8 roast, 1 lean 30g slice: 2
Lasagne sheet: 2
Lemon sole, 170g fillet: 3
Mackerel: 150g fillet: 9 smoked: 14
Margarine, any sort, 1 tsp: 1
Marmalade: 2 heaped tsp: 3 reduced-sugar, 2 heaped tsp: 2
Mayonnaise: 1 tbsp: 3 low-fat 1 tbsp: 1
Milk: semi-skimmed, 284ml/½ pt: 4 skimmed: 3 whole: 5 soya, unsweetened: 2
Muesli, medium 50g bowl: 5
Mushrooms, creamed 213g can: 5
Noodles: egg, 150g: 3
Nut cutlet, 1 medium 87g: 8
Oatcake: 2
Oats, 30g dry: 3
Oil, (olive, sesame, sunflower or vegetable) 1 tsp: 1
Orange juice, unsweetened, 100ml glass: 1
Parsnip, 90g:2
Passata: 0
Pasta, white, 150g: 4 wholemeal, 150g: 5
Peanut butter, 15g: 3
Peas (fresh, frozen or canned) 1 heaped tbsp: 1
Pesto sauce, 1 tbsp: 2
Popcorn, air-popped 25g: 4
Pork: roast, 1 lean 35g slice: 2 mince, raw weight 140g: 6
Potato salad, 1 tbsp: 2
Potatoes: baked, pre-cooked weight 150g: 3 boiled, 150g: 3 mashed, 120g: 2 roasted in lard or oil, 100g: 4 sweet, 150g: 4
Prawns, king, cooked weight 100g: 3
Quinoa, dried 100g: 9
Quorn: burger 50g: 2
Raisins, 1 heaped tbsp: 2
Rice pudding, ½ 215g can: 5
Rice: brown, boiled, 150g: 6 white, easy-cook, 150g: 6
Salad cream light, 20g: 1
Salami, thin slice: 1
Salmon, tinned pink, 106g: 4 fillet, raw weight 130g: 6
Sardines: in brine, 120g: 5 in oil, drained 120g: 7
Sausage, pork, 40g: 3 reduced-fat pork, 40g: 2
Scampi, in breadcrumbs, 100g: 7
Taco shell, medium: 2
Taramasalata, 1 tbsp: 4
Tofu, regular or smoked, 50g: 1
Tomato juice, 100ml glass: 0
Tonic water, 250ml: 2
Tuna: in brine/spring water, 70g: 2 Medium steak, 140g: 5
Turkey: mince, 140g: 5 roasted, 2 medium slices (no skin): 2
Vanilla extract, 1 tbsp: 1
Venison, haunch meat, 120g: 3
Wine: red/rose/dry white, 175ml glass: 4
Xylitol (artificial sweetener): 0
Yoghurt: Greek, plain 150g: 5 Soya, plain, 150g: 3 low-fat plain, 150g: 2
Yorkshire pudding: 1
Zest (lemon, lime, orange): 0
Zucchini fritters, 100g: 5



Marion
 
If there accurate thanks....
 
Fish seems quite high to me for some reason, I thought salmon would be but Tuna seems high too? I have a lovely tuna steak in my freezer!
 
Fish seems quite high to me for some reason, I thought salmon would be but Tuna seems high too? I have a lovely tuna steak in my freezer!

Better eat it before the new plan comes into full force, lol..

But can see what you mean. If I were to be put on 29 points (am now on 19) its gona be 5 times as much and would use a large chunk of my daily allowance, plus bread has gone up slightly too, which is a shame as I love having tuna mayo (extra light mayo) sandwich or bagel, and it seems its gona be a lot for that on this new system even with 10 or so extra points...

Ooh and according to that list, wholemeal pasta is more points for the same amount, even though its healthier (certainly sustains you for longer) :( I love my brown past so so much...
 
I have a feeling there is someone who mentioned they have a Sunday class? I am not til Tuesday evening so I will be reading with interest til then. Is the ww esource changing tomorrow or monday? Am thinking I might start using the online tracker wotsit.

x
 
Im going to class on monday, but im sure that there is a few ppl who go on sunday. I personally cant wait to get the new plan, i didnt really want to change when i first heard but after reading all about it i think it will be really good.
 
I'm doing it online so hope to be starting on monday! One thing I do find odd is all cereals seem to be 3 for 30g, even the unhealthy ones? Oh well doesn't actually bother me as I'm not a cereal person, just an observation. I am so so looking forwad to getting stuck in. If I can freely snack on fruit then- BARGAIN! How wonderful cause i won't be thinking 'ooh I would rather have a pack of velvet crunch as my evening snack than an apple and pear mid afternoon IYKWIM.
 
When I first read about propoints I thought someone was saying saturated fats would be counted differently from unsaturated. But the calculators I have seen seem to be just counting total fat. I wonder if we have the whole story yet?
 
I've been following this thread for a while now so time i said hello. Hello all. I was a bit apprehensive about this change initially (i dont like change!) but the last couple of weeks i've hit a bit of a plateau so maybe this is exactly what i need. Our leader asked if we had any questions about the plan last week and we found a few things. Some good like the week before someone had been saying there is no incentive to have a banana instead of a weightwatchers chocolate bar at the moment because they're the same points yet we all know the banana is healthier. Obviously that will change with the new plan so better choices can only be a good thing i guess. Cheese apparently comes off better (few cheese fans at our meeting). But my downfall (pasta) is going to work out about the same. Did notice however in the book we got the mcdonalds burger example. At the moment the burger would be 9.5 points, im only on 18 points so i would be thinking well thats over half my daily allowance i wont have it. With the new plan its 12 points and we have a minimum of 29 so daft as it sounds i would be sat thinking well i've still got over 1/2 my daily allowance left i'll have it. We'll see how it goes. I'm only 3.5lb from my original gold weight (i was a gold member 5 years ago) but i want to loose about another stone so we'll see if i like it.

Thats a bit of a ramble there but thought id share my thoughts.
 
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