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Oh my gosh, just saw the above answer, sorry! For some reason my page wouldn't load page 6 of the comments, so I read through until page 5 and thought "oh well, no one's asked it." Then as soon as I ask the question and post it, it loads page six and I see it directly above. Duh, I feel so stupid!

Sorry if this has been asked already, but can this be made in a stick blender or does it need an actual food processor?

What's free ice cream?

Where it drops seems to be different for everyone, maybe depending also on height and age? When you joined, you must have been just at the beginning of the higher bracket, so your loss took you down into the next one! Congrats on your loss, even if losing pp is annoying :-)

I think if you just blended it it should be free, but if you juiced it there will be points (e.g. think about the fact that even natural juice, with nothing added and the pith still there, has quite a few points in it). But I'm not certain.

Surely the nutritional information is on the tin?

Not quite sure what you're asking - propoints IS the new system! :-)

I usually just cut it into cubes and roast. Or cut it in half lengthwise, place face down on an oven tray, bake for a couple of hours - leave to cool, scoop out the soft flesh, and blend with vege stock/light coconut milk/evaporated milk and herbs/spices for an easy and delicious soup!

Is the database mostly user-entered? If so, that would probably account for it.

Ooh, thanks, def gonna get some on my next supermarket trip!

That's really funny! Good little side bonus of using it!

I've mostly cut out bread as well, my body just doesn't like it from a weight loss perspective. I'll happily eat potatoes, noodles, pasta etc - it's just the bread my body struggles with! The one exception is my flatmate makes a beautiful slow-rise bread, and seems to be absolutely fine. So...

Don't be afraid to use them; that's what they're there for! I always like to have a few up my sleeve just in case something unexpected crops up, hence why I use 4-5 a day rather than 7. Also, studies show you'll lose more weight if your body can't predict it's calorie intake, so the weeklies are...

Yep, def eat your weeklies - when I worked for ww we usually saw the best losses in people who'd used at least half (for people on about 33 daily or less - more than that and it didn't seem to make a difference.) Also, just like with exercise, try switching it up a bit so your body can't...

I'm on 26. I find it's fine because I'm pretty sensible, and there's always my weeklies if I feel like a few more. Usually I'll use 4-5 of my weeklies a day, and save the other 14-21 weeklies for in case I have something particular on. I also don't drink alcohol, which helps of course (both...

Remember though, there's a reason WW no longer uses calories. They were actually originally determined simply by burning food, which obviously isn't how our body processes it. What is interesting to know, though, is that a gram of protein or carbs has 4 calories, while a gram of fat has 9...

Remember though, there's a reason WW no longer uses calories. They were actually originally determined simply by burning food, which obviously isn't how our body processes it. What is interesting to know, though, is that a gram of protein or carbs has 4 calories, while a gram of fat has 9...

Some things will be more/less than double when you have two of them. We should only count whole pp of course, but in reality the values are continuous rather than discrete. Eg if something was 1.4pp, that would be rounded down to 1 pp for one, but two would be 2.8 which would be 3. Conversely...

You say you used the nutritional info - what did you put it into to calculate? Because if it's an app you might want to check it's up to date - there were halves on the old points, but not with pp! :-)

Can't help you cause I don't know the product sorry, but if you have the nutritional info post it here along with the portion size and we can work it out for you! Oh, and it definitely won't be 1.5pp because there are no half propoints!

Did you buy the calculator off your friend? That's the easiest way to work it out, bearing in mind you'll need to re-check each week you lose weight, because we don't know when you'll drop propoints :-)

You're welcome! Yeah it's a fab way to make brekkie go a bit further!

Good to know! But if you have the nutritional info, you're always best using that anyway. Might be worth double checking those values on the packet and that it's for uncooked, because that does sound low!

Where are you getting the 1pp per 10g thing? Go with the nutritional info on the packet, because different pastas will vary slightly and that's accurate for the pasta that you're actually eating. Always use the nutritional info for the food you're eating if you have it, because it's more...

I think it's 1, but not 100% sure. I'll be back at my computer in an hour or two, and if no one else has answered by then I'll check on e-tools and get back to you! :-) Update: just checked on my e-tools, and between 2 and 5 egg whites is only 1pp!

Ooh I love this idea, am gonna have to try it. Thanks!

HoneyBee: you don't like ANY fruit?! I agree completely with Dopey Angel, I think she has it spot on. Snacking on fruit, even if it is sugar (in the form of fructose), is much better than snacking on biscuits or ww ice creams. Whether or not we pointed it on the old programme or have it as 0 on...

There shouldn't really be this sort of discrepancy, it's pretty poor. Find a leader who has good weight loss stats (do they have Diamond Leader over here?) and trust them, I guess.

Firstly, the ''5 a day''guideline is a minimum based on what the government thought it could plausibly convince people here to eat by way of fruit and veg; some other countries are the same, but some have higher daily recommendations. For example, in NZ the campaign is ''five plus'', the WHO...

That's very helpful, yes - thanks so much! :-)

Unless you're doing a Simply Filling day, you should always count everything! If you're doing a Simply Filling day, you don't need to count the Filling and Healthy foods and 2tsp of oil, and the rest comes out of your 49. You should definitely eat dairy, but unless it falls into the above...

Just a reminder there are no half propoints! :-)

That's really useful, thanks very much!

Can't help you out with the stockists sorry, but just wanted to say I saw this on another thread: Dunno if those are the only two affected, but it might be worth checking the pp value at your meeting - 1pp sounds pretty low!

The best way to do it is for your overall day - 5pp for 3 eggs, 3pp for 2 slices of bread etc. But it can be tricky to keep it straight sometimes, so it shouldn't be the end of the world if it's not perfect! And definitely don't worry about counting across days!

Wow, really? So say for the soup at cafe nero, is that 4pp for the tomato and basil soup including the bread and butter?! I've been having the soup on it's own! And do the salads all include dressings too, then? That's great to know about the supermarkets, thanks. Will have to have an explore!

Hey all! So, I've read this thread with great interest, I think the whole concept is absolutely fascinating! I have lost the majority of the weight I needed to through WW, and am actually now in my healthy BMI. Given that, when I moved overseas for a few months a while back (mixture of...

You're welcome! :-)

Where have you read a fried egg is 2pp? That would only be the case if it were a medium egg and you used a free spray of oil. Otherwise you have to point your egg and your oil!

Good question, I'd like to know too please!

Next time you're there, ask them for their nutritional information, and work it out from there.

Great to know, thanks for sharing!

I posted this in another thread - seems easier to copy&paste than type it all again :-)

Well the number of daily points is different for everyone of course, depending on you age, height, weight, gender and whether you're breastfeeding. But what do you mean you can save your daily points but not re-use them the next day? If you saved them, you haven't used them the first time, so...

Unless you actually specifically request soya or skimmed they just use regular full-fat.

Kallo sesame rice cakes are 1pp for 1, 2pp for 2, or 2pp for 3! :-)

Hello, fellow NZer! Yeah they seem to have some great options, although there are definitely things back home I miss! Really good Japanese/Vietnamese/Laotian food for instance - they have delicious low point takeaway options! It must be here somewhere, it's just a matter of finding it! Oh my...

Yep, I've done that! I'm finding the eating out guide frustrating because it doesn't give portion sizes or very many more generic options - it's mostly big chains. And the shopping guide seems to be pretty limited for brand selection. So I have an app on my phone that I use to work it out at the...

Yes, nuts (especially walnuts) are very good for you! How about avocado (healthy but quite high points) on toast? Or salmon on crackers? A full-fat yoghurt (probably healthier from an ingredients perspective than the low fat artificial sugar ones!) Or muesli bars with more natural (organic?)...

Thanks, this sounds like a great recipe!

It depends on the item. I'm still figuring it out over here a bit, but I know back in NZ there were only a few items that WW was actually better value for pp-wise, often another brand was the same pp and cheaper. So, like I say, I'm still working it out here, but it looks to be the same story...

I'm reluctant to comment on the saving thing, cause different leaders seem to say different things. But no, you will not lose more by not using your weeklies! As someone who worked for NZ WW, the people who consistently achieved good losses were the ones who used most (half to all) of their...

Glad you found an answer, but it's rubbish that the WW app is so wrong!

You're welcome :-)

Can you recommend any brands that don't have that awful artificial sugar flavour, please?

Because although we treat points as discrete values, in reality they're continuous, and there's implicit rounding in them. You should never use decimals in your points, but let's just pretend temporarily for the sake of illustration: Imagine an item is 1.4 pp. This would get rounded down to 1pp...

The Quorn products are really low value - only ones I can remember off the top of my head are the onion burgers, which are only 33pp each. I think they're a brilliant meat substitute!

Assuming you didn't have marshmallows and whipped cream (tell me if you did, along with the sort of milk, and I'll look it up for you): Full fat milk - massimo - 12 Full fat milk - primo - 7 Skimmed milk - massimo - 7 Skimmed milk - primo - 5

This is direct from my book: Alcopops - per bottle Bacardi breezer blueberry, mango, orange, pineapple, raspberry or watermelon - 3 Bacardi breezer lemon - 5 Bacardi breezer, half sugar, raspberry - 3 VK LO, Pineapple and grapefruit - 1 Beer, Cider & Lager - 1/2 pint unless stated otherwise...

Hey all, I'm a WW LTM and ex-staff-member (in NZ). I've only just moved to the UK, and so while I have the programme pretty much sussed I'm really struggling with basically having to start over with the food. Back home, I knew which were the best brands, who did low fat but still tasty...

Regarding the olive oil, NO! If - and only if - you are doing a Simply Filling day, you should have two teaspoons of healthy oil (olive, rapeseed, walnut etc) and not point them. On the regular propoints plan, you MUST point all your oil! Good luck!

Based on that nutritional information, it's 3pp for 100g, or 6pp for the 200g packet.

Glad to hear you're feeling better!

Very true - diet is MUCH more important than exercise for weight loss (although exercise is important still for health generally, of course).

In NZ, we weren't meant to give pp values out in meetings - either in case we got them wrong, or because some people hear what they want to hear (eg someone said ''brand x of low fat chicken sausages are 3pp'', and next week all these people wondered why they gained after pointing regular...

Good luck with it! I find it wonderful for those frantic days when I just don't have the time to track. It's definitely worth investing some time in going through your books and making a list of all the Filling and Healthy foods before you start - sometimes it's quite pleasantly surprising...

Ooh yes, I'd love to hear suggestions too please!

Simply filling is a brilliant option, but only if you've already got a handle on portion control etc. A lot of people who start WW can't actually tell whether or not they're full, because they're so used to eating until they're stuffed, and obviously simply filling isn't going to work for them...

Wow, that's strict! Maybe the liability laws are different here?

Exactly - you'll just see twice the result at your next WI! But I'm sorry to hear you're feeling worse - hope the medicine gives you some relief and that you shake off whatever it is soon :-)

Not sure about those ones, but I know some of the lozenges (including ones that say ''sugar free'') really ought to be pointed. And I think most lemsip has sugar in it, but I'm not sure. Try googling ''lemsip nutritional information'' to work it out? Hope you feel better soon!

Home scales are notoriously unreliable - try to stick to the scales are your WW meeting, gyms and doctors offices! And keep in mind weight fluctuations throughout the day, and even throughout out the week e.g. if you usually have a big night out on friday, of course you'll be heavier for the...

Cold roast vege salad? Couscous or quinoa salad? Chicken, salad & wrap to assemble there (so it doesn't get soggy!)? Homemade sushi? Just a few ideas off the top of my head :-) Do you have access to a microwave at work?

Ooh, great tip, thanks!

Glad to help, and good luck! You won't know what to do with yourself with all those points to spend on food - give it a week or two, and I reckon it's much more satisfying than alcohol anyway! ;-)

Yay, good on you! But don't be afraid to use your weekly stash - that's what they're there for!

Tinkerbellsmum is absolutely right. The thing to remember is: at least you tracked! So you know exactly what you are doing, and can plan how to improve for next time. Seriously, don't underestimate that - the fact you're actually aware of what you're doing and tracked it all is a huge thing...

Oh, and I forgot to say: don't stuff yourself simply for the sake of using your weeklies! (Yes, sounds obvious, but you'd be surprised!) But don't be afraid to use them if you feel like them either. Just always be aware of your satiety level. If in doubt, wait 10 min and ask yourself ''do I...

When you say that you exercise, how frequently and at what sort of duration and intensity (eg a gentle 1hour walk in the weekend, an hour of medium gym twice a week, two hours marathon training daily...)? Unless it's the latter - regular and high intensity -,I would advise against eating them...

Although I should add that we suggested people who were just doing infrequent, average/gentle exercise didn't use their activity points, but rather took them as a health bonus/sanity saver in case of a blow out. Obviously people exercising more frequently or intensely need to eat some of the...

I worked for WW in NZ, and we definitely saw the people who had consistently good losses were the people who ate half to all of their weeklies! Amongst people who didn't eat any, we were much more likely to see a gain. At least, this applies to people on a daily allowance of 26-32ish - I...

Nope, it doesn't matter when you use them. But if you want to save pp (cause you're planning a big dinner or going out or whatever), do NOT skip meals. Sitting behind the desk, weighing people, I could always tell someone was gonna gain when they said ''oh, I had big parties on both fri and sat...

I have days like that, when no matter what I eat I seem to be slightly peckish! I try to keep my mouth and tastebuds occupied with free stuff: fruit, sugar-free gum, diet softdrinks... If I feel like that's not gonna do it, I splurge a chunk of my pp on a good, hearty, healthy meal - something...

My understanding is that if you put it into a smoothie the fruit is free. However, if you juice it then you have to point it - I believe because it affects the fibre content (even if you leave pith/whatever in). But be VERY careful - it's easy to put far more fruit into a smoothie than you...

I worked for WW in NZ, and we saw a lot of people really reluctant to use their 49. But sitting behind the desk, talking to people and looking at the data, I was really struck by the fact that the people who used most* of them were the people consistently losing more weight. So don't be scared...

So working it out from the above, your 190g one is 6pp (7/225*190) :-)

Oh and also, some places drizzle oil over food when they grill it - remember to ask for it all grilled without oil added, or you'll have to count it!

If it's cooked to order, there are couple of things you can do to lower the points value: 1) have your eggs poached, rather than scrambled - that way you know there's no added butter. 2) ask for the mushrooms, bacon and sausages to be grilled rather than fried - then you know there's no extra...

Ah, yes, I must say the lack of portion sizes in the Eating Out guide is infuriating! I'm used to the NZ books, where everything has a grams value! So if anyone finds out, I'd also love to know!

Some of Waitrose's own brand crackers are pretty good e.g. the poppy seed thins, or the high bake biscuits (they're called something along those lines!) are 2 for 1pp. And hey, don't worry that you've had a ''bold'' few days - that's what the spontaneity stash is for! Just focus on what you're...

P.s. good luck for your weigh in tomorrow!

A medium egg is 2pp. Or 0pp for 1 egg white/1pp for two egg whites - a great way to bulk out omelettes or scrambled egg! In terms of the potato, it's more size dependent, so yes I would advise weighing it.

Go to a meeting and explain your situation to a leader. I don't know what the story is in your area, but I worked for WW in NZ and it was absolutely fine for you to do the programme for at least the first part of your pregnancy, as long as you had a letter from your doctor saying he/she was...