Just logged back on, sorry for not replying sooner to everyone. It is interesting to read that people who are having 15 actually have better losses than those who have lower. I wonder if its anything to do with feeling you are not depriving yourself too much. I try and have a curly wurly everyday so i dont feel i am losing out too much. Some days i have not had enough syns and have nearly given it all up as couldnt have the curly wurly or what i wanted. I know a curly wurly isnt much but its something nice at the end of the day so i think i will just aim for between 10 and 15. The other syns usually go on pasta n sauce, low fat marg etc so if i know every day i can have a curly wurly without feeling guilty for having 10.5 syns instead of 10 that is likely to really help me. Its weigh in tonight so fingers crossed! thanks again for all replies, made very interesting reading indeed!!