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[melarnz]

our posts have crossed!!

I have thought about it. I too have been quite lucky. My midrift looks like a deflated balloon, and my tummy overhang has never been pleasant! lol. I would love my boobs to point anywhere but straight down, but it really doesnt bother me that much. Other than that, my skin just feels a bit more 'pliable' thatn it used to.

I thought I would wait for about a year to 18 months, and let things settle. This will also get my wedding out of the way. At this point i will sit down with hubby and decide wether it is worth the money (i didnt know you could get a tummy tuck on the nhs!!). I have looked at before and afters of full body lifts, and im not sure if the overall effect is worth the money. I would consider a tummy tuck and a boob augmentation if i had the cash and my hubby was in agreement. However, im not sure if i could deal with the time off work, the recuperation with 2 young kids, and also, you never know, i might even have another one! (although, as hubby is sitting here reading as i type, he says there is little cahnce of that lol)

I think the overall thing for me would be yes, I would love to have the surgery, if the good outweighs the bad, and it didnt cost too much up front, or i would lose too much by not working.

 

[Blonde Logic]

Peony, I want everything pulled up and tied in a knot at the to of my head!! LOL

I would have everything done, if I could afford it. And if it were safe.

I would once in my live love to have a flat stomach. If I could spend the rest of my life on my back, then I do. But its a whole other thing when I stand up.

However, because of an accident I had when I was 19, and a few other obstacles in life, I have already had more then 10 major surgeries. I have at least two more, minimum - double knee replacements - likely twice if I live a long time....I am now facing surgery on my shoulder. Maybe one day on my neck. I am sadly ending up with a shopping list of surgery - and none of it elective or "fun".

There can be accumulative effects in some from anesthesia. I feel I may already be pushing my luck - not too mention all that lie ahead. So I now have to take this into consideration.

But in a perfect world - I would have everything corrected. Well, everything that my fat life ruined - I would not change my face or features....just the resultant damage.

WHo know. Maybe one day. I can dream.

 

[peony]

I think the nhs thing is a bit of a lottery - it depends on your PCT. I was told by a woman in my LL group months ago that Derbyshire PCT which I fall under, do fund them but she didn't know the criteria. The criteria differs depending on your pct - some might just go - yeah, 10 stone lost? - here have a tummy tuck (unlikely lol) others want you to be down to a specific bmi for x amount of time - or you might need to be mentally traumatised by it ... the list goes on.

I am mostly bothered by the same things as you - how the hell would I cope recovery wise, I can't just lay in bed for days or weeks.

I think it sounds like the effect losing the weight has had on your body is similar to mine - I think we have been spared the rod! And as you say, it is early days and it may well improve in the months following reaching target.

I would love to know why it is harder now than it was earlier on, it is driving me insane trying to come up with a theory - as I say Mr Peony reckons the body has to work a bit harder to get teh energy from fat and would far prefer us eat so it can get it easily from the food instead. - Maybe that's why your cravings are junk based - you would get most energy from that sort of food?

WARNING : FOOD TALK

I have gone through cravings phases, to start with it was tossed salad (garlic/olive oil/vinegar/ leaves) then I really started craving junk food and started imagining eating fish and chips and stuff - at the moment I am craving proper meals and, bizarrely, fish. Esp fish curry - go figure!

Good luck with the rest of today.

xxxx

 

[peony]

BL our posts have crossed - my daughter has just arrived home with my mum so I have to dash but will read your post tomorrow. Love ya xxx

 

[pancras]

Hi All

Mel I think you had the right idea about just enjoying yourself with family guilt free and then restarting it was what I did last week. I have stuck to plan so far but I have had to be a bit imaginative in doing so. ie I used a bar to nibble on whenever I felt that compulsion, the bar lasted over five days and enabled me to get into ketosis. Imo the hardest part is getting yourself back into ketosis, I think if you can hold on by hook or by crook it will make it easier for you to lose the last bit of weight.

BL I am sorry to hear that you will have to have surgery, I hope all goes well when you do.

As for surgery I have already explored that avenue I have breasts that look like cow udders my arms could be mistaken for a cape. So far my legs are slowly looking like an old ladies support tights and are trying to make the sounds of maracas as I walk. As soon as I can I will be approaching my GP to be added to the list, if I am unable to get it on the NHS, I will downsize to a tummy tuck and breast lift.

I hope you all had a lovely valentines day and received some some non food goodies.

 

[slendablenda]

Oh Pancras. One thing you haven't loost is your sense of humour. You made me laugh- if only it weren't true. I can relate to all you say - but, I know I can look good with clothes on - and I know I look a darn sight better with or without clothes than I used to.
No surgery for me.
2 reasons. I can't afford it and I am a cissy.

 

[Blonde Logic]

BL I am sorry to hear that you will have to have surgery, I hope all goes well when you do.

.

Thanks hon. Apparently, its what I do!

First when I was 5, then 7 between ages 19-22, a few more since then....apparently its my hobby.

I always seem to do things twice at least. One knee, then the other. One shoulder, now the other. Hell, its a good thing I only had one uterus or I would have had 2 hysterectomys too!! :giggle:

Thanks hon. x

 

[melarnz]

I got through day 1. Woohoo!!!! Day 2 has dawned, I am hungry, but feeling more positive than yesterday. I am going to my WI tomorrow to get my packs. However, I don't think I will weigh. I think it will just depress me. I might just get my packs and stay at the meeting but not depress myself with the damage I have done!! What do you guys think?

 

[melarnz]

How did you get on last night Peony, did you have a good time?? were your friends amazed at how absolutely fantastic you looked!!!

I didnt know you did wedding stationary!!!! Im getting married next year in Antigiua and was wondering about the protocol of invitations for a wedding abroad. Do you just tell everyone your going, and if they can afford it they come along too, or do you have to send formal invotes to people?

Half way through day 2. So far so good. I am cooking a roast for the famly today, so Im going to have to make sure i have a bar handy to pick at whilst serving it up.

 

[melarnz]

ohhh - forgot something too. I heard on the radio this morning about this bloke that lost 9 stone and wanted to get a tummy tuck on the NHS. The woman said even though the fella had pre existing mental issues with regard to depression and body image, they still wouldnt do it!! I do listen to a london talk radio station, so Im not holding out much hope of getting it done on the NHS.

Maybe ill go to Brazil to get it done and recuperate!! I could struggle to the pool and sit there all day (goes into day dream)

 

[peony]

Hello everyone
First off - phew! BL I can't believe how many scrapes you have had - my sister is a bit like that - sometimes I don't know if she is lucky or unlucky - ie lucky to walk away from a head on collision with a lorry, lucky to walk away from wrapping a car round a telegraph pole, etc etc or unlucky to have been in the accidents! She has also had numerous ops - in fact she is now the proud owner of 3 enormous gall stones in a jar having had her gall bladder removed last night.

Is there an op that could ease the pain you have in your neck? - I didn't realise there were cumulative effects from anaesthesia.

SB you made me chuckle - We could form Cissy's United - I am a proper pain wuss too lol!

Pancras, good luck with getting some work done on the NHS when the time comes. It seems to be one of those postcode lottery things - I do wish the same rules would apply for everything across the whole NHS.

Mel, I'll come with you to Brazil - but we'll need to kidnap Paul McKenna to take with us so he can hypnotise the cissy- ness out of me lol!

Really well done getting through day one, good luck with today. You can do it - just get through this evening and you will be getting really close to ketosis - how long does it take for you to get there?

Had a lovely evening - my friends almost fell over at the sight of me and there were lots of positive strokes. I have known them since school and it was lovely to catch up. One lives relatively locally but we hardly manage to get to see each other and the other lives a 2 hour drive away in Fleet so it was fab to see her - in fact keep an eye out on BBC2 this spring for a show called Cracking Antiques as she is in one episode - they will be the family with 2 little boys and a 1950's house getting their lounge done.

Yes, I design greetings cards and wedding stuff - I used to be a purchasing manager in a pharmaceutical company but they drove me round the twist and I walked out after 10 years service and set up my own business - I barely make any money by comparison but I am happy happy happy doing it, and life's too short to spend it doing something you hate.

laters you gorgeous lot
XXXXXX

 

[pancras]

Hi All

Well done Mel on getting through to day 2 and good luck for the rest of the day I hope you got through the roast unscathed. I have a lot of respect for the mothers who still have to cook and do this diet as it must be torture at times. I am fortunate that my children are grown up and no longer require my skills in the kitchen even though they all try their luck in trying to get me in there.


Currently enjoying the Brits, I have not watched it for years and it has been quite enjoyable and the performances good. I am currently watching Casabian, not my type of music but enjoyable anyway

 

[peony]

Ooh didn't realise that was on - isn't Jez part of the catering for that? Love Kasabian - bet I've missed it now going to toddle off for my bar and to watch the rest......

 

[slendablenda]

BL, I alreay had an appt booked with my GP for this morning so I asked my GP about surgery for the saggy boobs etc.
He said he would have to put in an application for funding and it was likely to be rejecte. He has to start at the appeal stage. He's only had 1 case approved. But people are offered bariatric surgery on the NHS which probably costs the same. He had an 18 year old 18stone boy Offered surgery! i told him to hold fire. He suggested I contact the local private hospital for more info as they often to free consultations. Val would probably know. I told him I didn't want to get swept into the system. I have been so lucky in avoiding surgery apart from once at the age of 6.I don't think I could voluntarily put myself under the knife. Ihad a meeting with a colleague today. She's lost a stone since Christmas. Said I was her inspiration. That's lovely.

 

[peony]

WOOO and indeed HOOOO
I have hit my 9 stone today - very happy bunny - 1 stone 6lb to go to healthy bmi, 1 stone 13lb to go to target.

Well chuffed I am.
xxxx

 

[Blonde Logic]

Hello everyone
First off - phew! BL I can't believe how many scrapes you have had -

lol - yeah, its my hobby. Most of them relate to an accident I had when I was 19 and broke both my legs which took about 7 surgeries or so over 2 years to repair them. And now, as they wear out, more surgeries to maintain them.

At the moment, there is no surgery for my neck other then fusion, which I refuse. I would rather live in agony then not be able to turn my head. So I wait, and hope for medical advancement.

I don;t know specifics on the cummulative affects of anesthesia, but my maternal grandmother had many surgeries in her life, before she was elderly - and as she got older she had a lot of problems with mental facilities - not the typical aging, but confusion and loss of memory at an early age, etc. They told her it was more likely all the drugs she had been given. Granted, I think today they use better stuff then sodium pentathol (?) which if I understand correctly is very damaging. So - we will see. I already do have great difficulty with my memory, but have been atttributing that to Fibromyalgia as it is one of the symptoms. So who knows. I hate it though. I am far too young to feel this old. lol

All the the other surgeries are a result of , well, just unfortunate genetics.

I'd much rather have a fun elective one!!


Peiony - I just really wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS on nie stone!!!!! WELL DONE you!!! Yuo are rockin this, and you shall certainly hit your target by your daughters birthday!! GOod on ya gal! You are a star and an inspiration!!!

Enjoy!!!

xx

 

[melarnz]

Well done peony!!!!! You are smashing it. All the hard times seem worthwhile today I bet!!! Keep it up, you will be there soon xxxx

 

[pancras]

Well done peony, you are almost at goal. Good 9lb loss for me this week onwards and downwards till goal. How is everything Mel. you still hanging on in there?

 

[melarnz]

I went to weigh in last night, but I didn't weigh in. I got my packs and then the group analised my life for an hour trying to find my trigger. The conclusion was that I put too much pressure on myself. So the action plan is to leave work at work. For the next week I am not allowed to bring work home with me. That means I won't be working when I could be spending time with my girls. Then I wont feel like such a crap mum. They seem to think I am punishing myself for the kind of work I do (It involves collecting money and repsessing cars) and rewarding myself as I don't have any 'me' time due to so much going on.

I don't know if it will help, but it was nice having a little cry and getting it all off my chest. A new day has dawned again today. I have a new plan and I am feeling positive. I have not ordered any bars so i can get into ketosis quicker. Hopefully, this is just what i needed

 

[Blonde Logic]

I hope it does help Mel. It certainly can't hurt!! I make it a rule NEVER to bring work home, so I think its good advice. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other.
x