thanks for the replies. i think i'm going to try a few different products, as the variety will help me stick to a diet. I take a multi vitamin pill every other day and a capsule of essential fatty acids a couple of times per week so will probably be ok. I much prefer the exante shakes to the LL ones which were just so strong flavoured yet watery. But I only like the one bar from exante, the choc and orange, so I'm going to buy others from elsewhere too.