VLCD Boundary Pushers

[poppygreendog]

Ive been really saddened by this thread.

I find it very sad - in my opinion some things are better left unsaid.

If I want to be chastised for not being strong enough to SS through social events I would go to LL, for all the group therapy/ judgement.

Again - me too, in fact this was the very reason I came to CD and left LL!

I am so happy Ive simply found a balance which works for me. Im happy that you have found what works for you but Im not angry that you do it differently. I am jealous at times that your loses are larger, but I know, I can not do it.

Again me too!

I do also agree with the whole position on alcohol, on every ocassion I have had a planned break I have safely bought myself out of ketosis, I'm just lucky that I seem to slip in and out of it so quickly.

I don't like this thread at all! - PGD

 

[poppygreendog]

Look at it from the other side: I, and others, stick to the diet 100% and we have weeks where we have great losses and weeks where we have "poor" losses, then we come on here and see people talking about boozing at the weekend or having a take-away on a Friday night and having a better loss than us. It can be tough when you've given up conventional food entirely and then see people who are "cheating" doing better than you in the same way you're finding it tough to go 100%.[/QUOTE]

There is a 100% forum where you may not feel the same frustration, the reason it was set up is so that those people who have the same issue as you didn't have to read posts that so obviously upset you. Prior to this Minimins asked members to put something like 'food question' in their titles, perhaps it might be worth you getting in touch with a moderator to ask for this to be re-instated.

Yes I agree that there must be some frustration for you but there are things you can do yourself to relieve the frustration.

Just my opinion - PGD

 

[poppygreendog]

Think i'll be signing out of minimins for a while, i don't like this at all :wave_cry:

I too am considering this - I'm not a 'ritual cheater' but have been a little offended by some of the comments. :wave_cry: - PGD

 

[mollydog1308]

I feel all my enthusiasm for CD has just gone out the window. I feel really saddened by this thread.

I find it incredibly difficult to maintain 100% after the first 5 or 6 weeks. My husband works away so i'm on my own with two teenagers that constantly bicker, need lifts, try my patience, don't tidy rooms etc etc etc on top of a stressful job and sometimes I just can't cope with it all and I do have some wine and food.
I don't feel good about breaking out of the diet but on those days, i'm just at the very end of my sanity and i can't help myself.
I have also managed through several social events and with the odd white lie have managed to maintain SS and nobody has noticed.
My mum is 65 at the weekend and my dad wants to take us out for a meal. I'm in such a pickle about this now especially after reading all the posts on this thread. I don't want to let my mum down as I know she will be so looking forward to it especially as my brother and family are on holiday and can't join us. I'm more than happy to be the driver so i stick to water but i can hardly sit in a restaurant and not eat anything.

Just feeling so down in the dumps now :cry:

 

[Beccubug]

I too am considering this - I'm not a 'ritual cheater' but have been a little offended by some of the comments. :wave_cry: - PGD

I haven't posted for a long time but wanted to come back for some of the legendary Minimins support as for the first time (in many restarts) I am finding it hard to get through a week. Don't think I will bother now. :sigh:

 

[Beccubug]

I feel all my enthusiasm for CD has just gone out the window. I feel really saddened by this thread.

I find it incredibly difficult to maintain 100% after the first 5 or 6 weeks. My husband works away so i'm on my own with two teenagers that constantly bicker, need lifts, try my patience, don't tidy rooms etc etc etc on top of a stressful job and sometimes I just can't cope with it all and I do have some wine and food.
I don't feel good about breaking out of the diet but on those days, i'm just at the very end of my sanity and i can't help myself.
I have also managed through several social events and with the odd white lie have managed to maintain SS and nobody has noticed.
My mum is 65 at the weekend and my dad wants to take us out for a meal. I'm in such a pickle about this now especially after reading all the posts on this thread. I don't want to let my mum down as I know she will be so looking forward to it especially as my brother and family are on holiday and can't join us. I'm more than happy to be the driver so i stick to water but i can hardly sit in a restaurant and not eat anything.

Just feeling so down in the dumps now :cry:

Please do what makes you happy. At the end of the day putting all of it aside it is your body and your journey. :bighug:

 

[shrinkin'violet]

Can we just keep things in perspective here folks, no need for anyone to get upset! Every one is entitled to their opinion. We're only doing this for ourselves, so if you cheat and lose or not, whatever, its not my business.if you think I should be stricter with myself but I'm happy plodding along... whatever. If you come on a forum like this and post, people will respond and it won't always be what you want to here..whatever. Do this diet for yourself in the way that works best for you. You'll find some people doing the same as you and some people will admire you and think you're doing well, some people will not agree that your doing it the right way... Once more... Whatever! You will find support on here if you want too, but don't expect everyone to agree with your way if it deviatesfrom the norm. Ps this is actually the most supportive forum I've ever seen. Best of luck people! X

 

[Divster]

Please dont let one thread on a fantastic support forum, knock you off your path xx

100% - 80% we still lose weight, and thats what its all about

 

[MaryMZ]

This is quite tricky. I can see why people don't want to read about what other people eat and still lose tons of weight. But I hope that folk keep coming on this forum. In fact i wouldn't have even lasted a week on Cambridge without this forum or maybe I wouldn't even have started it at all. I think there is a big difference between people saying well I eat takeaways and drink quite a bit but still manage to lose a good amount of weight and other people coming on wondering if it's OK to have a meal out for a celebration or worried that they haven't stuck to the plan very well.. I for one think for myself it's OK to have a break for a special occasion meal or party. That's my opinion. And my CDC says the same. And holidays too.

 

[Mrs jk]

I've been reading this with interest but didn't comment as I am not on CD but a different ketogenic diet. For those feeling disheartened by comments on this thread remember they are just opinions and you should not allow them to put you off- If you are serious about losing weight and this is your support tool then do not let yourself be put off.

To those who feel envious due to cheaters losing more- it's tough. My first time round I was 100% the whole 13 weeks then did a strict 4 week re-feed. I lost max 2.5lbs in a week- it was the only way I could do it and I understand. This time I wasn't 100% again the only way I could do it due to various factors- take heart that all that matters is that you are losing and not how much others lose...

 

[mybodyisacage]

This thread upset me a little too but PGD, MD and Bbug you have to see that everyone has different opinions on the subject. There are still many people who will support you, despite differing opinions. Im guessing everyone in this thread would encourage you all.

Look elsewhere in the CD area and you will find so much help, advice and guidance. Avoid this thread as its obviously a sticking point for many, on both sides of the issue.

Mollydog- I have been in similar situations and I would advice that you dont drink but do eat, low carb and low fat. but perhaps this is not the right thread to say that in.

Do what you feel is best and what works for you. Try not to apply others rules to your life.

I hope this helps and I hope that people dont 'fall out' over a difference of opinion. Our differences are what makes us all individual and ultimately, human.

 

[Beccubug]

I actually agreed with a lot of wht was said. The alcohol thing in particular and the bad advice but it was the points about people who struggle and cheat (I hate the word but other people used it) do not have the same commitment to the diet and should not be on the low plans. Surely that is a matter for us and our CDC.

 

[100% All the way :)]

Don’t be sad ladies…There is no reason to feel that you don’t ‘belong’ on this forum or do not deserve to be on this diet more than anyone else. We all have one thing in common, we have made a choice to better ourselves , lose weight and feel fitter and healthier and whichever way works for you than great – keep it up!

I do understand that this chat maybe hasn’t come across as it should have? I am now in my 15th week of SS and have not given in to a off day yet but boy am I counting down the days till I can eat again, haha I have even found myself smelling certain foods (for a little longer than one would class as normal) and for some very strange reason all I am craving is a hotdog..oh dear! I am quite strong headed when I put my mind to something so my OH has definitely confused my stubbornness with will power on many occasions J To be honest, and please don’t take this the wrong way – when I read about some people falling of the bandwagon it gives me a little extra push to carry on because I feel proud of myself that I have got this far.

The most important thing to remember is that before most of us would not think twice about eating a yummy Big Mac or finishing off a nice tub of ice cream (my weakness). Now – everyone recognises their off days or moments of weakness and is able to acknowledge that it might have been something that maybe was not the best idea but it means we are all learning J

Remember - Doing Cambridge and having an off day is better than doing nothing at all!!!

We will all get there in our own time and if it takes a little bit longer for some because the very odd treat is the only thing than gets them through this lovely journey then who is anyone to judge. Keep up the good work everyone, it can be very testing at times x

Might go shed a little tear now as my colleague just made a big bowl of microwave popcorn and it smells absolutely yummy *drooooling* hahaha

xxx

 

[100% All the way :)]

P.s: 'Life is a journey not a destination' Maybe the same applies to this diet, the destination for us ALL is skinny some of us are just taking a more scenic route xxx

 

[pandorasinbox]

I feel quite cross that what I've said has been twisted to imply that I think anyone who can't SS with no slip-ups or planned breaks is somehow lesser to me and others who SS successfully.

For the last time this is not what I, or anyone else, was saying. Falling off the wagon from time to time happens to the best of us and is nothing to be ashamed of. Having planned breaks, for whatever reason, is healthy and it's important that people don't end up demonising food in their journey to get over their hang-ups of it. Having a birthday, Christmas, or other special event off is totally understandable and I intend to go off-plan for Christmas day myself.

This thread was intended to be a bit of a rant against the people who go off-plan and act smug about it or who encourage others to cheat.

No one should feel that Minimins isn't a supportive place, or that anyone in this thread who is annoyed by the bad-advice crew is going to jump down their throat if they have a bad day and eat their comfort food, or have something on a night out.

This is a support forum. I was cross and in need of a bit of support to get through that and to feel like I wasn't the only person who felt that way, so I came here. I did the same thing as you would if someone ridiculed you for choosing a VLCD, or you had a bad day and binged; it just happens my issue was more controversial.

EDIT: I'd also like to point out my "if you can't SS, maybe you shouldn't be on SS" was not a judgemental comment, or a "get out of my club!" style thing. It's more concern that maybe people are forcing themselves to do a diet step that doesn't suit them.

 

[Jayellekay]

I am now in my 15th week of SS and have not given in to a off day yet but boy am I counting down the days till I can eat again, haha I have even found myself smelling certain foods (for a little longer than one would class as normal)

Hehe! I love this! I put this in the same catagory as watching cookery programmes back to back all weekend, and researching receipes to cook in the future.
Both of which I term "Food Porn"!!!!!

 

[pandorasinbox]

I am now in my 15th week of SS and have not given in to a off day yet but boy am I counting down the days till I can eat again, haha I have even found myself smelling certain foods (for a little longer than one would class as normal)

Hehe! I love this! I put this in the same catagory as watching cookery programmes back to back all weekend, and researching receipes to cook in the future.
Both of which I term "Food Porn"!!!!!

I sit and pin healthy/tasty recipes on Pinterest during my lunch break or my more trying days. I also try to avoid walking the dog during 7-9pm as this is when all the tasty smells of dinner come drifting out of people's windows!

We all have our ways of coping - one person's journey is never going to be the same as another's!

 

[100% All the way :)]

I understand where you are coming from too, and as I said in my previous post 'I do understand that this chat maybe hasn't come across as it should have. It can be disheartening as I have given up so many wonderful things for this diet and then when reading some comments you think 'was it a waste to have said no' or 'should I have just had those drinkies'? Wowee, you do really have some low moments (and plenty good) on this and after a night out this weekend I actually got home and burst into tears as I said to my OH I just did not feel a part of things anymore and on a completey different wave length to most people when we out for a night. I so wanted to join in the fun Bit of an overshare, sorry

Smile everyone, we all working towards the same thing x

 

[100% All the way :)]

I LOVE pinterest, so addictive!! I even found myself smelling a peanutbutter roll the other day of all things and had to stop after I noticed the worried look in my OH eyes Bwahaha I hang my head in shame

 

[Beccubug]

Obviously just crossed wires.