ProPoints Azwethinkweiz (Sarah)s new food diary!

Dubchick81 said:
I'm out this evening for dinner too... Determined to make good choices tho as WI is in the morning...
Was out last Thursday as well for dinner.. God damn.. Soon I change my weigh day to Friday!!!
Oh well.. Hoping the fact I've been OK the rest of the week will go to my advantage.. :)

Yeah I'm trying to be ok tonight because tomorrow is WI and because the weekend seems like it's gonna be calorific!! Kinda dreading it now lol. I just know I'll gain anything I've lost. I'll need to be 100% from sunday to friday!!

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Yeah I'm trying to be ok tonight because tomorrow is WI and because the weekend seems like it's gonna be calorific!! Kinda dreading it now lol. I just know I'll gain anything I've lost. I'll need to be 100% from sunday to friday!!

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Maybe.. Maybe not.. But you'll get it back off in no time if you do.. Think POSITIVE :D
 
Dubchick81 said:
Maybe.. Maybe not.. But you'll get it back off in no time if you do.. Think POSITIVE :D

Yeah... I need a little Frances angel on my shoulder to tell me to keep thinking positively. This negative automatic thinking is a bummer LOL! I'm just gonna enjoy my birthday meal and try to keep my mood up over the weekend.
Where are you eating tonight hon? Something yummy I hope! X

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Yeah... I need a little Frances angel on my shoulder to tell me to keep thinking positively. This negative automatic thinking is a bummer LOL! I'm just gonna enjoy my birthday meal and try to keep my mood up over the weekend.
Where are you eating tonight hon? Something yummy I hope! X

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A restaurant called Joels.. its on the Naas Road (i'm sure I've spoke about it before) Not the fanciest place but the food is YUMMERS... Am gona have seared chicken fillet with backed potato and sauce on the side... I think! :D
 
Dubchick81 said:
A restaurant called Joels.. its on the Naas Road (i'm sure I've spoke about it before) Not the fanciest place but the food is YUMMERS... Am gona have seared chicken fillet with backed potato and sauce on the side... I think! :D

Oh I think you have mentioned it before :) mmm yummy food. Can't wait for my yummy food tomorrow now hehe :D I might get fillet steak if we go for "normal" food. If we go italian I'll get some tomato based pasta (would that be best option?) and if it's chinese I'll get chow mein or rice... Hmmm. X

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Oh I think you have mentioned it before :) mmm yummy food. Can't wait for my yummy food tomorrow now hehe :D I might get fillet steak if we go for "normal" food. If we go italian I'll get some tomato based pasta (would that be best option?) and if it's chinese I'll get chow mein or rice... Hmmm. X

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Yea I think anything tomato based is usually quite OK...

I had a demi baguette for lunch thinking it was 9 r 10pp... Then checked and its 13!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
I had it with 0pp soup.. Good job!! I'd have been cancelling dinner plans!!! lol
 
STS today. Probably need to reduce pp but I'll wait until next week because this week is my birthday week & I have a meal tonight and a hen night on saturday so I'll be in dublin all weekend. Will no doubt gain weight next week but I'll try my best to be good xx

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Hi Sarah, I don't post too often however I do pop in for inspiration every so often!

I'm always interested in how someone with depression is progressing as I too found the health service pretty poor for treating depression. I was lucky in that I could pay for therapy however I still didn't find it that good, no co-ordination between the GP and therapist..the system is a bit faulty, no question..

However, in saying that, there are lots of good CBT books out there. I use "The Feeling Good Handbook" by David Burns and when I say "use", I mean I actually do the exercises in the book. I started off by just reading the book but obviously that didn't do very much. I still have niggling thoughts but the difference is that now I'm able to work through them with the methods contained in the book!:) If you apply the exercises in the book, you really can't go wrong! It is CBT and a CBT therapist would be doing the same stuff with you so by doing the exercises, you could get a head-start before you do get access to a CBT therapist.

I did find the book challenging at first because it was such a big change however over time, I have gotten used to it. It really is "practice makes perfect" and I try to remind myself that no problem is forever, that once I work on a problem, it does goes away and that helps me too.

There is an online CBT programme called "living life to the full" (if you google it online, you will get a link to it) that a GP actually recommended to me-it's free, the NHS does it in England but you should be able to log on successfully!

If you're struggling with things, then I would say definitely do either of these programmes. They will teach you great coping skills on how to deal with your depression.

I would also recommend that you consider depression support groups-I've been to support groups before and they did help me because I felt like I had more support, that there were other people with the same issues as me, that I "wasn't the only one". I did learn a few good coping skills too from this so my advice is definitely to try it all out!

You're doing really well though-still tracking your WW propoints, running a race, getting back to work :) I'd say to take things one day at a time as it feels more manageable doing things that way. A lot of the time, our minds can be racing from one thing to another so taking one day at a time helps as it forces us to slow down a bit! =)
 
Hi Sarah, I don't post too often however I do pop in for inspiration every so often!

I'm always interested in how someone with depression is progressing as I too found the health service pretty poor for treating depression. I was lucky in that I could pay for therapy however I still didn't find it that good, no co-ordination between the GP and therapist..the system is a bit faulty, no question..

However, in saying that, there are lots of good CBT books out there. I use "The Feeling Good Handbook" by David Burns and when I say "use", I mean I actually do the exercises in the book. I started off by just reading the book but obviously that didn't do very much. I still have niggling thoughts but the difference is that now I'm able to work through them with the methods contained in the book!:) If you apply the exercises in the book, you really can't go wrong! It is CBT and a CBT therapist would be doing the same stuff with you so by doing the exercises, you could get a head-start before you do get access to a CBT therapist.

I did find the book challenging at first because it was such a big change however over time, I have gotten used to it. It really is "practice makes perfect" and I try to remind myself that no problem is forever, that once I work on a problem, it does goes away and that helps me too.

There is an online CBT programme called "living life to the full" (if you google it online, you will get a link to it) that a GP actually recommended to me-it's free, the NHS does it in England but you should be able to log on successfully!

If you're struggling with things, then I would say definitely do either of these programmes. They will teach you great coping skills on how to deal with your depression.

I would also recommend that you consider depression support groups-I've been to support groups before and they did help me because I felt like I had more support, that there were other people with the same issues as me, that I "wasn't the only one". I did learn a few good coping skills too from this so my advice is definitely to try it all out!

You're doing really well though-still tracking your WW propoints, running a race, getting back to work :) I'd say to take things one day at a time as it feels more manageable doing things that way. A lot of the time, our minds can be racing from one thing to another so taking one day at a time helps as it forces us to slow down a bit! =)

Thanks for taking the time to write that helpful post. I will keep a note of that book on my phone (I'm very forgetful lately) and I've just signed up to the Living Life to the Full site now. It looks promising. Its odd that I'm finding more help from the kindness of strangers than I am from the multitude of doctors and psychiatrists I've been to see. Seeing my GP yesterday was good as I like her very much... She agrees that I seem to be getting the fob off & she's pretty annoyed with that too I think.

I basically told the psychiatrist on Wednesday that I was getting distressed & anxious etc. with all the waiting around and that I felt like I wasn't being helped, all that was happening was I was being told to go back to work even though there had been no change & no help given yet. She of course was very defensive and saying they're doing all they can do & these things take time etc. For me, this is a life threatening illness. Perhaps that sounds dramatic but with my mind telling me over and over day to day that I'm better off dead & wishing I could peoples terrible illnesses away from them so that I could die in their place instead... its no picnic! I'm getting very angry these days because of it & I kind of have to stay away from my family because they can't seem to see past my illness or see that its the illness making me angry/upset.

I did get a book recently called Overcoming Depression using CBT techniques but I'm only part way through it & then had some very low days so I need to get back into reading it & trying the exercises. I tried one to do with breathing and concentrating on the breathing but I couldn't seem to stop my mind from racing? Obviously that led to the "I can't do this" thoughts - sigh!

I haven't gone to a support group as I'm afraid I won't be taken seriously. I feel a horrible guilt for being the way I am & inflicting myself onto others... especially when other people may have worse problems & might think "you have no reason to feel so bad".

I'm _trying_ to do WW. Week before last was ok, this week was so-so & the forseeable future looks bad because I'll be eating out so much. All I can do is try though! I have an awful habit of binging. So I could be good for 3 or 4 days straight and then completely ruin it all by binging like mad one of the days!! I'm my own worst enemy lol!!
 
Well first of all, you have every right to be at a support group, that's what they're for! You usually have to give a small nominal amount of money at them so it's handy that way too! Other people did have worse problems than me at the group I went to but it's not a case of "who's worse off", it's more that you're there with the same common problem, in this case depression and that you'll all help each other as a community really. And the depression is interfering with your life right now so you deserve to get the help you need. At my support group, I would talk about how I was feeling and this would help other people as they'd say things like "oh I can relate to what she said" etc. What going to a support group taught me is that you never really know how someone is feeling, most people put on a persona in public that "everything's fine" so hearing people speak so openly was like "wow, I would never known you had that issue otherwise" to me. I found that the people at the support group were really welcoming even though some of them were older than me; their attitude was very "oh I have the same problem too, the more the merrier here" so although I know that the thought of going is scary, that it will actually help you :) I did make one or two friends there too so it can serve as a social outlet too if you want it to. You've no reason to feel guilty, you haven't killed anyone or done anything wrong. All you're doing is trying to help yourself recover from depression and you are co-operating with the GP and doing all you can to get better. It's not like you want to be depressed. You became depressed just like someone might be diagnosed with diabetes or any other illness. It's not your fault. Family and friends care about you so I'm sure they don't mind you asking for help; after all, I'm sure you offer them help and support when they have a problem too.

With regards to the CBT, I'd say do the programme you feel most comfortable with. If you try doing them all, you'll most likely feel overwhelmed (I tried doing this and I would think "omg which programme am I following?" in my head lol) Whether that's the "living life to the full" or "Overcoming Depression" or "The Feeling Good Handbook". I chose "The Feeling Good Handbook" however I have "dipped into" the other programmes and they're all equally good really.

With regard to the doctors and psychiatrists, the government don't put enough money in the pot for health and that's the central issue really as well as poor management and too much bureacracy within the health service. How and ever, I wouldn't let that deter you! You will get help!:)

I would say you need a psychologist, not a psychiatrist judging from the way you described your symptoms here. I hadn't a clue what the difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist was before I had depression. Basically a psychiatrist is someone who did a medical degree but chose psychiatry as their specialism and they mainly deal with mental illness like manic depression, schizophrenia etc. A psychiatrist can prescribe stronger medication for mental health conditions than a GP as a GP is only general practice so a GP does a bit of everything and then refers you onto someone else if it requires specialised care. A psychologist did a psychology degree and probably masters/pHD if they're a consulant psychologist and they deal with issues like anxiety, depression amongst other things. A counsellor did a counselling course, probably a diploma and some certificates so they don't have as much training as a psychologist. Not to say that a counsellor can't be helpful too, of course they can however I would opt for a psychologist if at all possible! :) I found it helpful to know the differences between psychologist/psychiatrist as no one tells you these things! I only found out because I asked lots of questions lol!

You definitely were right to tell the psychiatrist that you're not happy with the length of time it's taking to get therapy for you. Keep speaking up!! Depression is a very serious illness and it's sooo common only people don't talk about it (grr); a pharmacist told me that prescriptions for anti-depressants are the most common prescriptions that they see, that a lot of people are taking anti-depressants to help them function.

It is great that you've been to a GP and to a psychiatrist though and made good steps in seeking help. The main thing is that you keep trying to do WW, no one does it "perfectly", that's impossible however if you slip up you can always start again, that's the beauty of the programme. WW isn't a punitive programme-it gives you points for treats and doesn't ban any foods so you are on a healthy eating plan as opposed to a crash diet type of scenario. If you're feeling bad about your eating habits, remind yourself of your progress-I just scrolled up and saw that you've lost 3 stone and have only 8lbs to go to your target weight. That really is an amazing achievement and you've done it in a healthy sensible way too.

With regards to eating out, you could actually still lose weight provided you make healthy choices and keep tracking your points and get back on track asap if you do slip off plan. One bad meal doesn't make anyone gain weight, it's a series of successive bad meals that does!:) Drink a lot of water and herbal tea (both 0 points) when you're eating out-I've had herbal tea instead of dessert before, I felt very virtuous lol. Another option is going across the road to a newsagent if it's there and getting a low calorie ice lolly like a Solero/loop the loop/tangle twister for your dessert instead of a restaurant dessert. I think Mr Freezes are fairly low calorie too but I'd have to check that one. Diet drinks are 0 points too-you could get a diet coke with lots of ice and a wedge of lemon or lime to flavour it up if you want.

As far as food goes, soup is good provided it's non-creamy, fruit is great, salad without dressing or croutons is good. Grilled chicken/fish/veg, boiled/steamed rice. Stir-fry is okay-ish, I'm sure you can ask them to use less oil in yours. Tomato based sauces on pasta as opposed to creamy ones. Thin crust pizza with chicken and veg or else just veg and get a 7inch one as opposed to 9inch and have a *plain* side salad with the pizza to fill you up without using much points. For fastfood, get a smaller portion or else plain salad, fruit and water. For cinema, fruit and water/diet drink or else curly wurly/dairy milk wafter thin chocolate bar/milky way bar/manhattan 30g bag of popcorn as opposed to a big massive bag of cinema popcorn etc. For Indian, chicken tandoori with salad or boiled rice. For Chinese, soup or stir fry. For Thai, steamed food or soup. Japanese is fairly low cal (miso soup, 1-2 maki rolls (the ones with the rice in them) are ok but just don't eat a load of them as sometimes they put cream cheese/mayo in them as a spread, sashimi is good too as it's just the fish), avoid tempura in Japanese places (it's batter!) Obviously don't have anything fried/deep fat fried/special fried etc if at all possible! For snacks on the go, cereal bar, piece of fruit, rice cakes or ryvita-pop a snack in your handbag when you're going out so you're prepared. Also a good idea to bring a bottle of water with you when you're going out. For fryups, eat less of the meaty stuff like sausage, bacon and more tomato, mushrooms, fried egg, baked beans, toast (use low fat butter though not full fat or else jam/marmalade).
 
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Sarah that site living life to the full is what my gp gave to me also before I got referred. The exercises on it are useful when I tried before x
 
Hope the hen do and birthday week is lovely :) x
 
For cinema, fruit and water/diet drink or else curly wurly/dairy milk wafter thin chocolate bar/milky way bar/manhattan 30g bag of popcorn as opposed to a big massive bag of cinema popcorn etc. For Indian, chicken tandoori with salad or boiled rice.

:8855:I got so paranoid after seeing a glimpse of this post - i thought you were talking about my diary on MFP, since i went to the cinema and idian yesterday and had exactly what you mention here!!

Also Sarah, I believe your birthdays 2 days before mine!
 
I'm baaaaack. Unfortunately the diet went severely out the window over this weekend with eating out and drinking etc. Fresh start from tomorrow though :)
I'm bloody knackered too, glad to be back in my own bed tonight!

Oh are you 10th May hon? Doing anything nice??

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Baby-belle said:
Me to back on track tomo!!!

I'm such a bad dieter lol ;) hope I can get back into it easily tomorrow. Might try to go for a run too as I've stayed off my leg a couple days now! X

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Hope u manage a nice run - but stop if it hurts! Dr Carly's orders ;) x
 
Thanks girls. I think I should be ok to get back into dieting after such a bad weekend. Gonna try to stick to 26pp from today till friday and maybe that'll undo some damage!

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U can do that :) go girly. X
 
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