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Hello Ladies,
Don't worry about what happened Mel.
"shoud'a, woulda, coulda" - one thing our LLC has always said - don't mean a thing, just make you feel worse.
Her next Mantra is"build a bridge and get over yourself"
I mean it in the nicest possible way -
look forward, not back.

I also get really cold nowadays. As well as all the layers of scarves, socks etc,
I take a little flask of hot black coffee in my handbag most places.
If i don't need it never mind,nothing lost. I know it's not always practical, but sometimes it's a life-saver.
Peony - I love my bath too - a little haven of peace, me time - and the bubbles cover me up nowadays too.
Looking forward to seeing your one leg
photo soon:

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Hope you have a good week.
 
So what is going on up near Nottingham today? Well my addiction to calculating nutritional data in recipes and obsessing about programmes like Market Kitchen is showing no sign of waning although I read another thread - I think you contributed to Mel - that it is a really common phenomena of this diet, so I am just going with it. I have even started sky +ing Market kitchen and other cookery shows. I am obsessed! I am also looking forward to the imminent arrival of the Gordon Ramsey Indian cookery book which I will attack with my calorie counting, notebook & pen zeal! Also the Gino Di Campo calorie counted Italian Diet book.

Haha...This is me! For me its Jamie Oliver. I'll watch any cookery shows but when i've been on VLCD's it triggers a Jamie Oliver obsession...also I get a lot of recipe books from the library and cook for family.

melarnz - Thanks!
 
Seriously Mel, stop beating yourself up. You are having a real downer on yourself to punish yourself for eating last night. Think about it - ok so you ate, guess what, people need to eat to survive so going against that instinct is one of the most difficult things in the world and if you slip up go - hell, well I forgive myself 'cos this is kinda one of the hardest things in the world to do - rather than trying to punish yourself. And you do have strong will power even if you think you haven't - you would not have lost such a vast qty of weight if you didn't. And lastly, you are always here for me when I need you so stop with the selfish guff.

here endeth the sermon. Great big hug darling, you need to think about how blummin well you have done, and how gorgeous you are looking - and think hard about how gorgeous you will be when you get to goal.

Ha ha sweetthang - I have calorie counted loads of Jamie's Recipes - hubby has taught himself to cook with Jamie's help whilst I have been doing this - and so he wants to make me loads of Jamie's recipes when this is all over.

By the way Mel - don't just stop to consider perceived 'healthier meal' cookbooks. My Gordon Ramsey Indian book has arrived and (stop here if you don't want to read about food)
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you have been warned, about to talk about food..............
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still here? ok then here goes...... I so far have only looked at a couple of recipes, I LOVED fish curry in the maldives on honeymoon so turned to the fish curry pages first. I calculate the calories per portion of 2 dished that caught my eye, the first was about 250 calories and the second 330. Ok you may have to add cals for rice or something to that, but they are not diet recipes, they are just recipes and I have worked out the cals. Interestingly they are lower than the curry they did on that dresssize show recently. So it just goes to show, I think I will be able to eat really well when I am done, so long as I keep track of my intake, and keep off the naughties like crisps, choc etc. (or have very very occasionally).

So today I have been into Nottingham with Hubby as DD is with grandma today (what a treat!) I decided I would try a few things on and if I find anything, maybe buy a couple of things to see me through as after my great clear out yesterday I am left with very few things to wear. First stop Karen Millen where a gorgeous size 16 coat just strained a bit over my bust - hmmm I said to the lady, I think I am a bit busty for this. She told me that Karen Millen stuff usually comes up a size smaller so that sent me off cheerily into Oasis where I tried on a funky close fitting size L top stripey top with tight sleeves and puffy shoulders- I had to buy it as it was so on trend, and such a departure from my fat hiding drab black tents of old. I got hubby to look and tell me if it looked ok and he almost fell over at the sight of me in something figure hugging and trendy (in a nice way!). Off I then pottered to Monsoon where I tried on a fab orange cardi (seems that the nautical look, navy and orange are a spring theme) and a few knee length denim skirts. I kept having to get the assistant to go and get smaller and smaller sizes, it was all a bit giddy, I couldn't fathom that the person looking back at me who who all I could see was fat thighs and tummy on, was wearing a size 10 skirt - it just didn't compute. I ended up buying the cardi in a 14 and the skirt in a 10! I never even wore a size 10 anything even when I was 'slim' in th eold days!

In the car on the way home I felt a little overwhelmed by it all, and utterly utterly exhausted. It really was a major watershed for me.

Oh yes Mel, the thing is although I am getting into 10's on the bottom (10 jeans still a bit to tight to say they fit properly) I am still carrying loads round my middle, and am really a 16 on top I think - The cardi was a bit tight in the 14 but I wanted it to last a couple of months.

I have found the most amazing shapewear that has helped with my middle bit - if anyone is looking for some, I have tried just about every item of shape wear on the market, but this is wonderful......
http://www.figleaves.com/uk/product...briefer&product_id=FM-2656&size=&colour=Black
Check out the maidenform website for sizing though which is clearer. I needed an L which I think is 14-16. It is well comfy, and gives you a lovely flat back and really holds in from under your boobs downward.

Well best stop this epic post, need to get some water.

Take care my lovelies
xxxxx

PS I have posted a picture of me in my album in my new get up - let me know if you can't see it - I know last time I tried to put a picture in there Mel couldn't see it.

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I do so love your trouser photo SB - will deffo have to do that when I have got to goal!

xx
 
Looking good Peony - you skinny minx!!!!

Its weird that we are going to have to think about things such as fake tans and waxing this summer!! i never bothered before lol
 
Wow Peony. I've just looked at your pics too. You should be very proud of
what you've achieved.
Now you've started buying the new clothes you won't be able to stop if you're like me. They are taking over the house like triffids, but it's such fun. My OH is enjoying it too as yours obviously is - enjoy xx
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Hi all,

I am starting my four-weekly group tomorrow and i'm a bit worried. I did LL for the first time back in April 2009 and by September i'd lost and gained 3stone, then I lost it again with leftover packs and juicing up to xmas and now i've started putting it on again :(

I dont seem to be able to stop and i'm worried i'll fork out £280 and not even be able to do a day! I tried Cambridge a couple of weeks ago and that didnt happen...not even a full day! I'm hoping the group aspect will help but I just dont have the motivation, I seem to gain and lose weight every five minutes and I suppose my brain is wondering what the point is by now and not getting very enthusiatic.

I wondered if you guys had any tips for getting through the first day/ few days/week? Any ideas for motivation or anything you found useful would be great to hear.

You've all done so amazingly well and i'm so in awe of your losses. I wish I could be the same :(
 
Im afraid no one can do this for you. You need to be in the right frame of mind, otherwise it isnt the diet for you.

there will be no point in doing it unless you consider it a lifestyle change. However, when I had my blip things worked.

1 - start writing a blog, this is a version of doing the thought records, just not as rigid.
2 - carry around a mouth spray, everytime you want to eat something, spray, it will taste nasty and u wont want your food to taste of it
3 - dont buy things u know you will eat. my kids are not allowed chocolate in the house anymore because i kept nicking it!
4 - take up a hobby that you do with your hands - knitting, drawing whatever, something to take your mind off food

GOOD LUCK - (there is nothing wrong with losing weight slower, and doing one of the conventional diets)

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I'm the same with every diet though :( I have real issues with binge eating. I really hope that the CBT stuff will help me, it did before.

You're right of course but with losing and gaining weight so much its hard to have any faith in myself. I need to keep trying though. Thanks for the tips, I have started a blog!
 
Hi Shweet
Im afraid no one can do this for you. You need to be in the right frame of mind, otherwise it isnt the diet for you.

there will be no point in doing it unless you consider it a lifestyle change.

I don't want to sound hard or discouraging, but what Mel says plus 1000. You need to think very hard about why you are doing this. It is an extreme method of weightloss, and if you aren't committed from the word go, I can't see what will be different this time compared to the other times.

I guess it is hard for me as I can't conceive of not even getting through the first day of a vlcd. Can you honestly ask and answer yourself why you didn't make it to the end of day one of CD? After the effort of getting to a counsellor, getting packs, building up to day one, you really really need to think why you couldn't see that day through.

Are you doing this for you or is it that someone else wants you to be slimmer? Could that be the reason you are sabotaging yourself? Other reasons? I don't know, I am no psychologist. I can understand that it is normal for many to fall off this wagon occasionally, brush down and get back on - but I really sense
self sabotage in how you are getting on.

I would suggest that the counselling would be the closest you will get to uncovering why this keeps happening - you say it really helped when you did it before - but did you stop too early or don't you think it really sunk in whatever you learned? If you are serious about doing this, you might need to dig even deeper to discover the background and key to your difficulties. That might be extremely painful - binge eating and other eating disorders can very often be a release and way of hiding a great pain.

As I say, you know this is an extreme and expensive way to lose weight and you will be wasting your time and hard earned cash if you don't commit to it 100%.

I am really sorry if I have spoken too harshly, but it is genuinely and sincerely with the best intentions.

I really really wish you the very best of luck hunny.

xxx
 
I wondered if you guys had any tips for getting through the first day/ few days/week? Any ideas for motivation or anything you found useful would be great to hear.

You've all done so amazingly well and i'm so in awe of your losses. I wish I could be the same :(


Hi hon,

Well, first you have to COMMIT to doing this 100% - you MUST adopt a ZERO-TOLERANCE to failure mental attitude. ANd you have to mean it - and believe it.

It will NOT work, unless you commit to it. AN dsee it through to the bitter end, including management.

Also, you have to BELIEVE you will get to your goal. Visualise yourself daily at your goal, in clothes you want to be wearing. Revisit that visualisation every spare minute you have, and BELIEVE you will do it. Don't "think" or "hope" you will do it - know beyond doubt you will.

As you start to believe in yourself the rest follows naturally.

This is as much a mental journey as anything else.

Once you get your head in the right place, the rest does follow.

But I cant stress it enough - your head HAS to be there, or there is no point doing it.

Good luck....if you want it badly enough, you will do it. If you don;t, you won;t. I reckon you do. :) GO FOR IT!!!!

xx
 
You are going to be at target sooooo soon!!!! Well done xxx
 
woohoo............well done peony!!!! And, I have just noticed some of you fabulous ladies have added before and after pics to your signature WOWWEEEEEEEE!!!!! Awesome and inspirational you are.

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Cheers ladies - you are all wonderful.
How is everyone else getting on this week (apart from being blummin' frozen?)
xxx
 
PS
Wish me luck I have had to book an emergency dental appointment this afternoon as I have a scary pain in my gum - teeth don't hurt, just the gum - any words of wisdom? I have heard that vlcd's can be bad news for your teeth as there is less occasion for saliva to get going as you eat less frequently and mostly eat liquids. Hopefully not related to my poor poor!

Will let you now how I get on, I am well dentist phobic after a bad experience a few years ago.

aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!
 
I asked my dentist about that last weekhe said it doesn't make any difference!! Good luck though xx
 
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