Yasmine's Refeed diary

[Yasmine]

Oooh lovely, have you got family there or are you staying at a resort or hotel?

Yeah 4 weeks, get see my family once a year only so we have to stay as long as we can. My family, we don't really see much of eachother, mostely on the moroccan side, but on my Irish side, not so much :/

 

[kered]

We go to a resort, but we are really good friends with a few people and we hired a car last year and went to see him and his Family, it was wonderful to go to the 'real' Turkey instead of the resort. We had a fantastic welcome and it was so different to how I imagined it, as in modern. Dishwashers, combi boilers, etc. It was a wonderful experience.

 

[Yasmine]

Wow! sounds real nice!

Be sure to visit places were it's traditional too, get a tase of what it used to be like in the old times. That's what I like to do when I go to morocco. It's a shame though, they're turning the town where I go into a tourist spot

 

[kered]

Our friend showed us around many different historial parts of Turkey as it was a 12 hour drive to get to his home town, so we visited different places and we also visited some wonderful Mosques. Its a memory I will hold forever.

I hear you on where you go to, its a shame when places get changed and become too commercialised.

 

[Yasmine]

I love car rides in my country, so much better when you get to look at land rather than piles of grey buildings .

Yeah, stupid bloody commercialism

 

[JanD]

I would suggest that it's only okay to have the low calorie days as long as you're having much higher ones either side, otherwise you WILL go into starvation mode.

Regarding the weight fluctuation .... have you got any friends who have always been slim? Have you ever asked them what they weigh? I guarantee they will not just say a weight... they will tell you a range that they fluctuate between. You know what I mean ... Between 10 and 10 and a half stone. Or 'aroundabout' 10st 4ish ..... NOBODY stays the same weight all the time.

Also Yas - I really hope you don't mind me saying this But PLEASE try not to be obsessive about the precise calories in everything. I know it's early days and you may well relax a bit as you get used to portion sizes etc but it makes me really uncomfortable when I see your 155.23 for rice and 246.34 for a potato etc. Now maybe that's because I can see the way I have been in the past between the lines - and please tell me to mind my own business , but it wouldn't be healthy to carry on like this for any length of time.

Eventually you're going to have to learn to relax around food or it's always going to be an issue (as it has been for me!) I wish I had learned this at your ripe old age of 17 instead of only just getting there now at nearly 54!

Just a friendly word of warning sent with love.

I echo wholeheartedly what KD said about not making the mistakes that we have made over the (many) years. Please try to learn from others' instead of wasting years obsessing like I have - hard as that is .....

Off soap box now - hope I haven't offended! You really are doing fantasticaly well!! xx

 

[Yasmine]

You haven't offended me at all jan, if anything, you've really helped. I know I can be very obsessive with weight, the fear of gaining weight again is so strong and it's going to take me a while to feel comfortable.

My friends don't weigh themselves, since they don't seem to gain any weight, they don't feel the need to.

I just really need some guidance since my parents won't support me. They think it's stupid that I'm monitering everything. But I have to since I've just started out eating for the first time in months. My weight gain completely freaked me out and I was getting scared that I was getting fat again. I know it's silly but that's just the way I am.

I don't know how high I should have my calories at the moment, having them low makes me feel safe but then again I could end up starving my body, and if I go too high, then I'll end up fat again. It's so confusing, I don't know what to do.

Today I was brave enough to have my calories around 1100, It's really frightening but it has to be done. I'm sure after a while I'll stop calorie counting, I don't want to do it for the rest of my life. But in the mean time, I feel that I really need to be careful.

Thank you so much for the support though, if you have anything to say to me about my progress please don't hesitate to say, and I mean anything. I need all the help can get :hug99:

 

[JanD]

Really speaking for your age and height you should be able to LOSE weight on 1500 cals a day - albeit slowly(ish). Admittedly you wouldn't want to be upping your calories to that level quickly - I'm talking about eventually.

As long as you're not a couch potato, when you've got yourself sorted out and are where you want to be you'll be able to maintain on around 1800 - 2000.

I'm hoping to follow a GI/GL way of eating to maintain. I KNOW if I count calories I'll end up thinking it's okay to 'spend' 600 on a bottle of wine and just have some cottage cheese and a couple of ryvitas to eat all day (I know - I've done it before ) Though - like you, I MAY start off counting cals to keep things well under control for a couple of weeks. I still don't know really. I've nearly finished my 1st week refeed menu, I may post it for comments!

As I've already said Yas - you're doing brilliantly! xx

 

[Yasmine]

Thank you, I know, I've been looking up on my calorie intake for my age etc and it's should be actually over 2000 cals. I'm going to stick between 900-1000 cals and maybe have a few days of 1100 like today.

Oh you used to calorie count? what happened?

I'm looking forward to seeing your refeed plan, the more the merrier, it helps us loads

 

[JanD]

Oh you used to calorie count? what happened?

I DID manage to maintain BUT it wasn't healthy as I didn't care where the calories came from. As I've said I'd sometimes use 600 of the 1000 I allowed myself for wine and consequently eat very little. I got away with it because I was a lot younger but it certainly wasn't a healthy way of eating.

There wasn't nearly as much information available as there is now! I remember belonging to a slimming club once .... God it must have been in about 1976 where we were told that it didn't matter where the calories came from, that a calorie was a calorie and if we wanted to use all our calories up in 3 cream cakes a day that was fine ....... HUH! No wonder I've struggled xx

 

[Yasmine]

I heard about doing stuff like that, the whole thing about calories and cakes etc.

Well, now we can choose and learn for ourselves I guess. I need lots of advice though, and I need guidance from all you guys since you guys have had more experience and knowlegde with how the body works when it comes to weight.

 

[kered]

I DID manage to maintain BUT it wasn't healthy as I didn't care where the calories came from. As I've said I'd sometimes use 600 of the 1000 I allowed myself for wine and consequently eat very little. I got away with it because I was a lot younger but it certainly wasn't a healthy way of eating.

There wasn't nearly as much information available as there is now! I remember belonging to a slimming club once .... God it must have been in about 1976 where we were told that it didn't matter where the calories came from, that a calorie was a calorie and if we wanted to use all our calories up in 3 cream cakes a day that was fine ....... HUH! No wonder I've struggled xx

I still use 600 cals sometimes on my alcohol if I am having a vodka night, but I dont cut down on my food that day, I still eat normally (exception one time last week, through being busy and not intentional). I just eat normally, but I will cut back on the calories a little for the next 2 days, it seems to be balancing out for me, so Merry Mary, stays Merry

 

[Yasmine]

Today I'm going to try and not have any snacks during the day, only after my dinner will I have something. Time to learn some dicapline

Breakfast:
Ready Brek Original - 108 calories
250ml skimmed milk - 83 calories
1 tsp golden syrup - 15.5 calories
1 banana - 100 calories

Mid-morning snack:
Nothing
Lunch:
WW Danish Bread - 96 calories
1 tbsp Marmite - 10 calories
Mature chedder - 77 calories
15g Lettuce - 3 calories
50g cherry tomatoes - 9 calories

Afternoon snack:


Dinner:
6oz Fresh Tuna - 185 calories
4oz Basmati Rice - 155 calories
50g romaine lettuce - 7.5 calories
100g Henna's very Low fat Natural Yoghurt - 43 calories
100g cherry tomatoes - 18 calories
25g peas - 11 calories
Tomato - 15 calories

Evening Snack:
Weight Watchers fruit layerd fromage frei - 64 calories

Total - 1000 calories

 

[kered]

Spot on 1000 - I admire you lol

 

[Yasmine]

LOL cheers, funny how I got 1000 exactly

 

[KD]

Hope you don't mind Yasmine, but I'm a bit behind. Want to reply to a few message on here.

Here goes

 

[Yasmine]

No worries, go on right ahead

 

[KD]

I really hope you don't mind me saying this But PLEASE try not to be obsessive about the precise calories in everything.

You haven't offended me at all jan, if anything, you've really helped. I know I can be very obsessive with weight, the fear of gaining weight again is so strong and it's going to take me a while to feel comfortable.

I remember being obsessive. In fact, I was for quite a long time. Never went to 2 decimal points, or even 1 come to that, but only because the software I used didn't compute that way...or I probably would have

I was very strict with my calories going up the plans though, and continued to count well after the 'diet'. Like you Yasmine, I was frightened of going wrong. I knew I couldn't diet again, so I had to get it right. And besides, I had relaxed too much in the past and it hadn't worked. Could take the risk this time.

Having said that, there is a fine line, especially when it comes to weight. You need to be logical.

With cambridge, the plans are pretty much set out..gradually increasing both cals and carbs over a period of about 10 weeks until you come off the diet. Eat this or that for breakfast, this or that for lunch. etc. Idiot proof

Of course, me being me, still mananged to fall a couple of times, but I have a sort of guideline.

Regardless of what the scales say, cheat on a plan and you stay on that one without moving up for another week. Do the plan 100% and you move up regardless of what the scales say.

But, there is no one size fits all.

Just remember that it takes approx 3,500 cals over maintenance cals to put on a pound of fat and you wont go far wrong.

 

[kered]

Just remember that it takes approx 3,500 cals over maintenance cals to put on a pound of fat and you wont go far wrong.

Excellent information as always - I didnt know that KD - thank you.

 

[KD]

About the golden syrup calories and moving on to bread calories.

This one is bugging me because everybody bread calories are less than mine

Okay, I know I have high cal seeded bread; something like 131 a slice, but somewhere you wrote that best of both was much lower than I think it is. So, I trundled down to the shops (excuse for a walk ) and sure enough, it was 85 cals a slice as I expected, which is higher than you mention.

Minor detail, but bread cals are mentioned on someone elses thread and I queried it...wondering if they load extra cals into bread that goes down south

Or, if you can get small loaves of Best of Both??

Again, just worth checking, not that it'll make much difference anyway, but just confused that's all.