Hey Lynne, wow 4lb, that's brilliant!! I have no doubt you'll have a really good loss on next WI day. It's strange how the headaches, coldness, stiffness etc, although unpleasant, spurs you on a bit. You know it's working. A bit like aching after a really good workout. Off to have my third pack now, spag bol, blergh! I do like most of the products, I'm quite weird like that. But the spag bol and shepherds pie are my nemesis.